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jrsmith_2010 · 01-16-2010, 01:30 AM

hey guys, i just got a 4inch z on my truck and the cab dont lay all the way in the ground, how can i get it lower without moving body mounts?

**lolife99** · 01-16-2010, 06:45 AM

Do you have drop spindles already?

smashingchuck · 01-16-2010, 09:51 AM

Body drop it.

72hotrodder · 01-16-2010, 11:34 AM

i removed my body mounts and presto drag'n rocker.

jrsmith_2010 · 01-16-2010, 12:21 PM

no i dont have drop spindles, and i already took out the body mount biscuits, and how would i go about doing a body drop? ive seen it done, but not really on the 73 87s

Restrorob · 01-16-2010, 12:27 PM

JR,

IMO......It would be easier/cheaper to go drop spindles and have those rear bags re-located over doing a body drop.

You already have a couple nice trucks, Why all the rush on this one ?

72hotrodder · 01-16-2010, 08:19 PM

if it is zd and lay'n frame spindals wont do anything. a traditional body drop is were you cut the floor board and let the body down lower then weld it back up. but then you gotta do the core sapport, usually by lowering the frame horns down just like you did with the z. then do the same to the bed

jrsmith_2010 · 01-16-2010, 08:24 PM

the frame horns already are like the z, 4 inches, is there any pics of how to do the cutting of the floor? ive been thinkin about it and cant really figure it out

Restrorob · 01-16-2010, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 72hotrodder

if it is zd and lay'n frame spindals wont do anything.

That's just it, His truck isn't lay'n frame the way it's zd and set up.....

63chevyll · 01-16-2010, 11:38 PM

id say spindles or remove body mounts

jrsmith_2010 · 01-17-2010, 04:16 PM

i have already moved the body mounts, i think ill just cut all the fenders and rockers and move them down and fill them in with metal, it will be easier then cutting the whole cab floor up

smashingchuck · 01-17-2010, 04:39 PM

how much did you move the mounts?

don't forget about the box, too.

72hotrodder · 01-17-2010, 10:29 PM

no it will not raising the floor is alot easier and time saving in the long run

jrsmith_2010 · 01-17-2010, 11:04 PM

how would i go about doing it tho?

theprestongroup · 01-19-2010, 05:54 PM

Section the frame under the cab. If you are laying frame, the frame section under the cab should be lowest part of the frame now. Cut about 1.5 to 2 inches from the bottom of the frame, brace and box everything up just like you did when you did your 4in z. That would eliminate the need to do a body drop. Now your pinch weld will be the lowest part of the truck.

72hotrodder · 01-19-2010, 10:57 PM

go to streetsourcemag.com and look around in there forums. there are countless bodydroped trucks there and a million pics

jrsmith_2010 · 01-22-2010, 08:50 PM

ok i think i kno what ill do, i think ill cut the cab floor on the outside of the frame so i wont have to deal with the body mounts, keep the floor where it is, but cut the rockers out and the firewall and the back wall and section it, heres a pic that might help what im trying to say

just cut on the dotted line

smashingchuck · 01-22-2010, 09:00 PM

Well that covers the cab, but don't forget you will have to do the same thing to the core support and bed.
I don't know why you aren't just modifing the frame. It's way less work, and just gets rid of all the head aches of a body drop.

jrsmith_2010 · 01-22-2010, 09:03 PM

i just dont get the concept behind it, is that how u did urs?

smashingchuck · 01-22-2010, 09:19 PM

no, my truck only has a 1.5" raised front cross member.

The concept is you hack off the amonut of frame that is keeping your cab from touching the ground. Usually aronnd 1" off the bottom, then box the remainder. The you won't have to make any mods to the cab, box, or core support. And get those pucks back between the cab and the frame otherwise you are going to have problems lining everything up just like you would with a traditional bodydrop.

look here:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=324997&page=5

FnLow69 · 01-23-2010, 01:03 AM

ya i would remove the bottom portion of the frame thats preventing you from laying body, as stated above. see link above, page 7 and 8 shows you what to do.

jrsmith_2010 · 01-23-2010, 02:04 AM

ok i see how its done now, but dv8 only did a 1.5 inch z where i did 4 inch, i dont need to take that much of the frame off, so im wondering if all that work is worth the 1 inch that i need to lay pinch weld, and 1.5 to lay rockers

ShowSS12 · 01-23-2010, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theprestongroup

Section the frame under the cab. If you are laying frame, the frame section under the cab should be lowest part of the frame now. Cut about 1.5 to 2 inches from the bottom of the frame, brace and box everything up just like you did when you did your 4in z. That would eliminate the need to do a body drop. Now your pinch weld will be the lowest part of the truck.

Yup I was just about to say the same thing.
Here are a few pic taken from Brown Bag Special

smashingchuck · 01-23-2010, 11:46 AM

Probably a little late to question that giant 4" z you did.

**N2TRUX** · 01-23-2010, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smashingchuck

Probably a little late to question that giant 4" z you did.

It wouldn't help if you did. He was too set on doing it to listen to any voice of reason.

01-16-2010, 01:30 AM	#1
jrsmith_2010 I like turtles... Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kansas Posts: 993	how can i get the cab lower? hey guys, i just got a 4inch z on my truck and the cab dont lay all the way in the ground, how can i get it lower without moving body mounts? __________________ 1979 Silverado- lowered 5/7, 20 inch Boss rims, everything shaved, caddy lights, billet interior, UP FOR SALE! 1983 Scottsdale-on the back burner...SOLD!!! 1992 Silverado- extended cab, stock for now, but no promises SOLD!!! 2006 Chevy Cobalt-college car, staying stock Whatever can't get fixed with a hammer, a roll of duct tape, a clothes hanger, a tube of glue, and a case of beer, can wait until tomorrow.

01-16-2010, 06:45 AM	#2
lolife99 67-72 parts collector,… Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 22,703	Re: how can i get the cab lower? Do you have drop spindles already?

01-16-2010, 09:51 AM	#3
smashingchuck It'd be alot cooler if you did Join Date: May 2003 Location: Three Rivers, MI Posts: 2,345	Re: how can i get the cab lower? Body drop it. __________________ 78 Build Thread 4Runner Build

01-16-2010, 11:34 AM	#4
72hotrodder THE TOY STORE Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: florence al Posts: 227	Re: how can i get the cab lower? i removed my body mounts and presto drag'n rocker. __________________ having a badass truck and not driving it is like having a playboy model as a wife and not..... well you know.

01-16-2010, 12:21 PM	#5
jrsmith_2010 I like turtles... Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kansas Posts: 993	Re: how can i get the cab lower? no i dont have drop spindles, and i already took out the body mount biscuits, and how would i go about doing a body drop? ive seen it done, but not really on the 73 87s __________________ 1979 Silverado- lowered 5/7, 20 inch Boss rims, everything shaved, caddy lights, billet interior, UP FOR SALE! 1983 Scottsdale-on the back burner...SOLD!!! 1992 Silverado- extended cab, stock for now, but no promises SOLD!!! 2006 Chevy Cobalt-college car, staying stock Whatever can't get fixed with a hammer, a roll of duct tape, a clothes hanger, a tube of glue, and a case of beer, can wait until tomorrow.

01-16-2010, 12:27 PM	#6
Restrorob The One And Only !!! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hole in the woods Florida Posts: 4,567	Re: how can i get the cab lower? JR, IMO......It would be easier/cheaper to go drop spindles and have those rear bags re-located over doing a body drop. You already have a couple nice trucks, Why all the rush on this one ? __________________ 93 Jeep XJ 88 Buick La Sabra Toys; 88 TA-GTA in the works.... 97 GMC Ext. Cab 502 Crate 5 Spd......Sucks Gas But Haulz Azz ! The primary function of an Engineer is to make it difficult for the Fabricator and impossible for the Mechanic. *"Why go out preserved when you can go out beat up, worn out, sliding in sideways screaming, Holy Sh!t What A Ride" !!!* Last edited by Restrorob; 01-16-2010 at 12:29 PM.

01-16-2010, 08:19 PM	#7
72hotrodder THE TOY STORE Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: florence al Posts: 227	Re: how can i get the cab lower? if it is zd and lay'n frame spindals wont do anything. a traditional body drop is were you cut the floor board and let the body down lower then weld it back up. but then you gotta do the core sapport, usually by lowering the frame horns down just like you did with the z. then do the same to the bed __________________ having a badass truck and not driving it is like having a playboy model as a wife and not..... well you know.

01-16-2010, 08:24 PM	#8
jrsmith_2010 I like turtles... Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kansas Posts: 993	Re: how can i get the cab lower? the frame horns already are like the z, 4 inches, is there any pics of how to do the cutting of the floor? ive been thinkin about it and cant really figure it out __________________ 1979 Silverado- lowered 5/7, 20 inch Boss rims, everything shaved, caddy lights, billet interior, UP FOR SALE! 1983 Scottsdale-on the back burner...SOLD!!! 1992 Silverado- extended cab, stock for now, but no promises SOLD!!! 2006 Chevy Cobalt-college car, staying stock Whatever can't get fixed with a hammer, a roll of duct tape, a clothes hanger, a tube of glue, and a case of beer, can wait until tomorrow.

01-16-2010, 11:38 PM	#10
63chevyll gets board easy....... Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 717	Re: how can i get the cab lower? id say spindles or remove body mounts

01-17-2010, 04:16 PM	#11
jrsmith_2010 I like turtles... Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kansas Posts: 993	Re: how can i get the cab lower? i have already moved the body mounts, i think ill just cut all the fenders and rockers and move them down and fill them in with metal, it will be easier then cutting the whole cab floor up __________________ 1979 Silverado- lowered 5/7, 20 inch Boss rims, everything shaved, caddy lights, billet interior, UP FOR SALE! 1983 Scottsdale-on the back burner...SOLD!!! 1992 Silverado- extended cab, stock for now, but no promises SOLD!!! 2006 Chevy Cobalt-college car, staying stock Whatever can't get fixed with a hammer, a roll of duct tape, a clothes hanger, a tube of glue, and a case of beer, can wait until tomorrow.

01-17-2010, 04:39 PM	#12
smashingchuck It'd be alot cooler if you did Join Date: May 2003 Location: Three Rivers, MI Posts: 2,345	Re: how can i get the cab lower? how much did you move the mounts? don't forget about the box, too. __________________ 78 Build Thread 4Runner Build Last edited by smashingchuck; 01-17-2010 at 04:40 PM.

01-17-2010, 10:29 PM	#13
72hotrodder THE TOY STORE Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: florence al Posts: 227	Re: how can i get the cab lower? no it will not raising the floor is alot easier and time saving in the long run __________________ having a badass truck and not driving it is like having a playboy model as a wife and not..... well you know.

01-17-2010, 11:04 PM	#14
jrsmith_2010 I like turtles... Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kansas Posts: 993	Re: how can i get the cab lower? how would i go about doing it tho? __________________ 1979 Silverado- lowered 5/7, 20 inch Boss rims, everything shaved, caddy lights, billet interior, UP FOR SALE! 1983 Scottsdale-on the back burner...SOLD!!! 1992 Silverado- extended cab, stock for now, but no promises SOLD!!! 2006 Chevy Cobalt-college car, staying stock Whatever can't get fixed with a hammer, a roll of duct tape, a clothes hanger, a tube of glue, and a case of beer, can wait until tomorrow.

01-19-2010, 05:54 PM	#15
theprestongroup Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 18	Re: how can i get the cab lower? Section the frame under the cab. If you are laying frame, the frame section under the cab should be lowest part of the frame now. Cut about 1.5 to 2 inches from the bottom of the frame, brace and box everything up just like you did when you did your 4in z. That would eliminate the need to do a body drop. Now your pinch weld will be the lowest part of the truck.

01-19-2010, 10:57 PM	#16
72hotrodder THE TOY STORE Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: florence al Posts: 227	Re: how can i get the cab lower? go to streetsourcemag.com and look around in there forums. there are countless bodydroped trucks there and a million pics __________________ having a badass truck and not driving it is like having a playboy model as a wife and not..... well you know.



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01-22-2010, 08:50 PM	#17
jrsmith_2010 I like turtles... Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kansas Posts: 993	Re: how can i get the cab lower? ok i think i kno what ill do, i think ill cut the cab floor on the outside of the frame so i wont have to deal with the body mounts, keep the floor where it is, but cut the rockers out and the firewall and the back wall and section it, heres a pic that might help what im trying to say just cut on the dotted line __________________ 1979 Silverado- lowered 5/7, 20 inch Boss rims, everything shaved, caddy lights, billet interior, UP FOR SALE! 1983 Scottsdale-on the back burner...SOLD!!! 1992 Silverado- extended cab, stock for now, but no promises SOLD!!! 2006 Chevy Cobalt-college car, staying stock Whatever can't get fixed with a hammer, a roll of duct tape, a clothes hanger, a tube of glue, and a case of beer, can wait until tomorrow. Last edited by jrsmith_2010; 01-22-2010 at 08:50 PM.

01-22-2010, 09:00 PM	#18
smashingchuck It'd be alot cooler if you did Join Date: May 2003 Location: Three Rivers, MI Posts: 2,345	Re: how can i get the cab lower? Well that covers the cab, but don't forget you will have to do the same thing to the core support and bed. I don't know why you aren't just modifing the frame. It's way less work, and just gets rid of all the head aches of a body drop. __________________ 78 Build Thread 4Runner Build

01-22-2010, 09:03 PM	#19
jrsmith_2010 I like turtles... Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kansas Posts: 993	Re: how can i get the cab lower? i just dont get the concept behind it, is that how u did urs? __________________ 1979 Silverado- lowered 5/7, 20 inch Boss rims, everything shaved, caddy lights, billet interior, UP FOR SALE! 1983 Scottsdale-on the back burner...SOLD!!! 1992 Silverado- extended cab, stock for now, but no promises SOLD!!! 2006 Chevy Cobalt-college car, staying stock Whatever can't get fixed with a hammer, a roll of duct tape, a clothes hanger, a tube of glue, and a case of beer, can wait until tomorrow.

01-22-2010, 09:19 PM	#20
smashingchuck It'd be alot cooler if you did Join Date: May 2003 Location: Three Rivers, MI Posts: 2,345	Re: how can i get the cab lower? no, my truck only has a 1.5" raised front cross member. The concept is you hack off the amonut of frame that is keeping your cab from touching the ground. Usually aronnd 1" off the bottom, then box the remainder. The you won't have to make any mods to the cab, box, or core support. And get those pucks back between the cab and the frame otherwise you are going to have problems lining everything up just like you would with a traditional bodydrop. look here: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=324997&page=5 __________________ 78 Build Thread 4Runner Build Last edited by smashingchuck; 01-22-2010 at 09:35 PM.

01-23-2010, 01:03 AM	#21
FnLow69 Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Washington Posts: 848	Re: how can i get the cab lower? ya i would remove the bottom portion of the frame thats preventing you from laying body, as stated above. see link above, page 7 and 8 shows you what to do. __________________ [PROJECT] FnLow69- 69 C-10 Full frame & layin' doors [PROJECT] Laidout53 - 53' Dodge Pickup, Full Kustom Build [PROJECT] "Hot Rod" 1931 Model A Bonneville style "Dream as if you'll live forever, Live as if you'll die today" ~ James Dean

01-23-2010, 02:04 AM	#22
jrsmith_2010 I like turtles... Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kansas Posts: 993	Re: how can i get the cab lower? ok i see how its done now, but dv8 only did a 1.5 inch z where i did 4 inch, i dont need to take that much of the frame off, so im wondering if all that work is worth the 1 inch that i need to lay pinch weld, and 1.5 to lay rockers __________________ 1979 Silverado- lowered 5/7, 20 inch Boss rims, everything shaved, caddy lights, billet interior, UP FOR SALE! 1983 Scottsdale-on the back burner...SOLD!!! 1992 Silverado- extended cab, stock for now, but no promises SOLD!!! 2006 Chevy Cobalt-college car, staying stock Whatever can't get fixed with a hammer, a roll of duct tape, a clothes hanger, a tube of glue, and a case of beer, can wait until tomorrow.

01-23-2010, 11:46 AM	#24
smashingchuck It'd be alot cooler if you did Join Date: May 2003 Location: Three Rivers, MI Posts: 2,345	Re: how can i get the cab lower? Probably a little late to question that giant 4" z you did. __________________ 78 Build Thread 4Runner Build

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