leaking ol and need a turn signal

[my1st69]

I have been droping a little oil everyday and have made the commitment to change the oil pan gasket can someone give me a rundown. -It will be my first repair to my NEW truck 1969 C10 long bed 350 4 speed.Also my turn signal is frailed and I would like a new one and maybe an original sterring wheel can someone also help with some good options here thank guys have a good one.

[Sammy]

If your changing the pan gaskets just remove the engine, get some oven cleaner from the dollar store do your self a favor and clean the crossmember and the engine bay. Replace the valve cover gaskets clean the engine up and at least touch up everything with some high heat engine paint. That way you can head off leaks in the future. Turn signal lenses are available at all the board vendors. Steering wheels are some what available also but are pricey and used in decent shape usually require some repairs. Cheaper to find a newer styled wheel from a S-10 or something at a swap meet. Or belly up to a aftermarket grant style.

[CG]

Originally Posted by my1st69

I have been droping a little oil everyday and have made the commitment to change the oil pan gasket can someone give me a rundown. -It will be my first repair to my NEW truck 1969 C10 long bed 350 4 speed.Also my turn signal is frailed and I would like a new one and maybe an original sterring wheel can someone also help with some good options here thank guys have a good one.

Maybe your not dripping oil, maybe its blinker fluid?

[ChevLoRay]

Originally Posted by CG

Maybe your not dripping oil, maybe its blinker fluid?

I drive a school bus. One of our blonde female drivers was told that her blinker fluid was probably low when one of her turnsignals didn't work. She came back to the shop and asked for some of it.

But, the boss told another female driver that her bus needed brake fluid....only thing is it had air brakes, and he was serious.

Just don't believe everything you hear and only half of what you see and you should do pretty good, at the end of the day.

[my1st69]

Originally Posted by CG

Maybe your not dripping oil, maybe its blinker fluid?

does it look like this?

SAMMY

If your changing the pan gaskets just remove the engine

I can pull a nissan 4 cylinder and trans in 3 hours by my self but I have never pulled a old school v8 is it that easy can it be done in a weekend. is there anything i shoulf look out for?also

Turn signal lenses are available at all the board vendors

I am acctually talking about the mechinism in the colum. it will not stay up or down so it is worthless can I rebuild I can fix almost anything . do you think it is TINKERABLE.
thank everyone for the response

[my1st69]

sammy you there can someone take a look here HELP

[GASoline71]

Pan gasket is a PITA with engine in the truck. Crossmember will be in the way. You'll have to lift the engine with a hoist to get it up high enough to clear the crossmember. Not a real fun job. Most guys will just pull the engine and do it on an engine stand. Eaiser that way. Then you can clean up the engine a little before stuffin' it back in there.

As far as the blinkers... your cancelling cam is prolly junk. You have to pull the steering wheel to get to it.

Gary

[my1st69]

Originally Posted by GASoline71

Pan gasket is a PITA with engine in the truck. Crossmember will be in the way. You'll have to lift the engine with a hoist to get it up high enough to clear the crossmember. Not a real fun job. Most guys will just pull the engine and do it on an engine stand. Eaiser that way. Then you can clean up the engine a little before stuffin' it back in there.

As far as the blinkers... your cancelling cam is prolly junk. You have to pull the steering wheel to get to it.

Gary

PITA ? how many book hours on a motor pull and is it easier to pull both engine and trans.
so the canceling cam is replaceable

[beebster]

pull the engine to change a pan gasket?
man, loosen the tranny mount bolts then the motor mounts. then jack-up the assembly high enough to jamm some pieces of 2x4s (or other scrap wood)where the motor mounts sit
(2-3 inches).
enough clearance to remove the pan.
i could remove and reinstall the motor in a weekend but damm.....

[El Jay]

Any decent parts store should have the turn signal cam.

[my1st69]

a guy on craigslist in my area is selling mounts for 60 is that a good price for brand new poly's

[Sammy]

Pulling the engine out, changing the pan gaskets, cleaning the inside of the pan, degreasing the crossmember of 40 years of road grime shouldn't take but a full day. Yes, it can be done while installed but you won't save much time nor get the engine bay as clean. Some folks don't seperate the tranny from the engine and have lil to no problems. But I have never been sucessful myself. But can be done I believe if you have a cherry picker and a load leveler, I figure. Poly eng mounts maybe slightly over rated. Stock mounts from your parts store are fine and probally cheaper than $60. JMHO

[Sammy]

Scratch the idea of pulling eng/tranny as an assy. If you are talking a granny 4 Spd. The inside floor cover will need to be pulled and maybe even the bench seat. be careful speaking from experance that 4 Spd tranny is more than a 1 person can lift unless your arms are larger than your neck is round.

[Alex Hayley]

If you decide to change the oil pan gasket without pulling the engine, disconnect the throttle cable before lifting the engine.

[my1st69]

now i cant make up my mind pulling an engine has never been a problem but with never doing it on this I am scared lol. I do have the 4spd so you think i whould pull it.

[GASoline71]

You can do it without pullin' it completely... but you will still need to get a hoist to lift the engine up a few inches away from the crossmember. Regardless of whether you lift it or pull it... it's not gonna be a fun endeavor...

Gary

[GASoline71]

Originally Posted by beebster

pull the engine to change a pan gasket?
man, loosen the tranny mount bolts then the motor mounts. then jack-up the assembly high enough to jamm some pieces of 2x4s (or other scrap wood)where the motor mounts sit
(2-3 inches).
enough clearance to remove the pan.
i could remove and reinstall the motor in a weekend but damm.....

That works... but like I said... a lot of cats will simply pull the engine and give the bay and the engine a good cleaning. A pan gasket is doable with the engine in the rig.

Gary

[grs]

First find out if the rear main is leaking, and also if the timing cove is leaking. If they are you will have leaks when you replace the pan gasket. Find a good shop that backs up there work. If they fix the leak, and it still leaks they should fix it again at no cast to you for parts , and labor. Check the valve covers for leaks. Some times they will leak down the back side, and you will think the pan is leaking. Just my 25 cents forth. So send me a quarter.

[my1st69]

Originally Posted by grs

First find out if the rear main is leaking, and also if the timing cove is leaking. If they are you will have leaks when you replace the pan gasket. Find a good shop that backs up there work. If they fix the leak, and it still leaks they should fix it again at no cast to you for parts , and labor. Check the valve covers for leaks. Some times they will leak down the back side, and you will think the pan is leaking. Just my 25 cents forth. So send me a quarter.

great idea on the valve covers I have a nice nice I will throw in soon here is the hoist tran blew on the wife a couple days ago

it al dependds on the wife her sched just changed to 4 10's split days off if she can get all days off to ensure a little extra time I will pull it clean strip the paint and primer it all.

I was going to buy a timming cover and new gasket but the guy at rock auto was asking me if it had some valve on it or not any idea's on that note. I also wanted to replace the froont and rear seals if even they arent leaking is that a bad idea(dont fix it if its not broke thing) thank s guys/girls for all the response also one more thing there is a power sterring pump bracket selling soon on the bay for 25 should i pick it up if I am ever thinking of PS or is there to much work involed with that swap and is 25 to much to ask soprry again for all the questions

[grs]

I would replace the rear seal. I think the front seal is on the timing chain cover.
I would pay a good shop to do it. I have never replaced a rear seal, and I have been working on car for 45 years. Good luck Grady

[GASoline71]

Rear seals are't that hard to replace. Paying the shop labor is gonna be a killer. A good buddy and a half case of beer and this job can be done in a day.

Also I would recommend one of the one piece pan gaskets made by Fel-pro. They are the cats behind, and are reuseable. Just make sure you get the proper thickness for the timing cover seal.

I also agree on the valve cover gaskets. Many an oil leak on a Small Block Chevy has been diagnosed to a valve cover leak. Old Small Blocks are like Harleys... when they aren't leaking oil... it means they're out.

Gary