'67 Panoramic #? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

**special-K** · 11-20-2010, 09:23 AM

After looking at a thread on the purchase of a very nice original big window '67 where this question was asked,I wonder if a number of big windows produced is even known.Someone mentioned they heard the number was (IIRC) 167 and wasn't sure how accurate that was.Others asked in that thread and I thought a new thread was in order.Is there such info out there?I know there are no numbers on this option and that,but this is an actual body panel difference and maybe that stat is out there somewhere.We'll probably never know the true number of Chevy "and" GMCs produced.I'm sure it's way more than 167.
If nothing else,it's something to think about.

sameyrasmea72 · 11-20-2010, 10:15 AM

You heard a total of 167 big window 67 cabs? That can't be right, I have had at least 3, so I figure there has to be tons more than 167.

**too much stuff** · 11-20-2010, 10:21 AM

I would say that number is alot higher. I have one and have seen a couple posted on the board recently. That brings us up to 6 in 2 replies. I also have a couple of glovebox doors with that option, but not sure where the trucks are...

*Shane* · 11-20-2010, 10:40 AM

I have one. That makes 7 and I've never had much of anything considered "rare" ...

C/10 King · 11-20-2010, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Shane

I have one. That makes 7 and I've never had much of anything considered "rare" ...

Rare, you mean like the "rare three door" option

, sorry couldn't resist.

71 super · 11-20-2010, 11:44 AM

Most of the 67 trucks around here had the optional bg window, I would think the small window would be actually more rare, sense at that time it should have been somewhat less desirable. I mean why chose limited visablity when you can actually see blindspots etc.?

**lolife99** · 11-20-2010, 11:50 AM

About 99% of the '67 trucks I have seen are the small back window trucks.
I would call the bbw 67's rare.

**special-K** · 11-20-2010, 02:10 PM

167 is way off,for sure.But,the majority of '67s were definitely small windows.Most CST/Super Customs had the panoramic and those that didn't are rare.The rest were generally small glass with the exception being large.Going from '67 to '72 the number of higher optioned trucks multiplied in a major way.Basic trucks were the norm in '67.Figure in years before,which '67s are the last link,most trucks had small glass and less options.To look at it as ,"why would buyers choose less visibility?", is from today's point of view.Back then it was just the way it was and more visibility was a choice.I think it was more for style than visibilty.That's what mirrors are for.

Hey Rene,three door Suburbans are rare...up to '67 and from '73 on.

fast_dev · 11-20-2010, 02:24 PM

i have one, its a 67 short fleet 4x4 with a 292 and a 4 speed. not much other options but the panoramic option is in the glove box

GOPAPA · 11-20-2010, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by special-K

167 is way off,for sure.But,the majority of '67s were definitely small windows.Most CST/Super Customs had the panoramic and those that didn't are rare.The rest were generally small glass with the exception being large.Going from '67 to '72 the number of higher optioned trucks multiplied in a major way.Basic trucks were the norm in '67.Figure in years before,which '67s are the last link,most trucks had small glass and less options.To look at it as ,"why would buyers choose less visibility?", is from today's point of view.Back then it was just the way it was and more visibility was a choice.I think it was more for style than visibilty.That's what mirrors are for.

Hey Rene,three door Suburbans are rare...up to '67 and from '73 on.

Tim ,,I can shed some light on the small window option and why many did not get it.. It cost more and many thought why does one need it ,,plus the hunters liked the room to mount gun racks up in them ,,and in my neck of the woods that is the way it was.

I bought a brand new 65 short box and ordered it with all the chrome and big back window and every thing that came with it in that year except a overdrive.and it did have the 283 engine.
You know what was said to me when I drove it to work that first day to the sawmill where I worked ?

Couple guys said why didnt you buy a truck ? this thing is to pretty to use and therefore useless to be a truck. The few guys who did like it was Jack who just bought a new 442 and a couple others ..but most thought extras like big back windows and chrome was a waste of money to put down on a truck..

One more thing Tim,,a guy in town not from me bought the exact same truck as mine almost ,,but with out the big back window and one day we was at safeway and he came over to talk about our trucks and the first thing he said was why did I think i needed the big back window ..go figure I guess..LOL

**special-K** · 11-20-2010, 03:20 PM

Larry,I have a question for you.so,why did you buy a truck with a big back window,anyway?

I think you were a visionary and knew they-d all be that way in another 4 years.You wanted style "and" when that coastal Oregon sun was shinin' you wanted all you could get.Hey,not everybody trashes a truck by working out of them.Some folks take care of their stuff.
What you describe was the general take on trucks back then,though.But,obviously GM saw the market for the options or they would have never been offered.

67chevy1series · 11-20-2010, 03:25 PM

im not saying this becauce i have one but i have sat in my truck and adjusted the mirrors to me and i had no blind spots i found a car behind me and made sure i couls see it through my side mirror and my rear view mirror and yes the bbw probably are rare but think about it thai way that is the last time chevy gmc made a small window for there 1/2ton to 1 ton models but if i was alive in 67 72 i would have bought a 67 cst withall the options except for the rv juinor mirrors but with a small window

67chevy1series · 11-20-2010, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by special-K

167 is way off,for sure.But,the majority of '67s were definitely small windows.Most CST/Super Customs had the panoramic and those that didn't are rare.The rest were generally small glass with the exception being large.Going from '67 to '72 the number of higher optioned trucks multiplied in a major way.Basic trucks were the norm in '67.Figure in years before,which '67s are the last link,most trucks had small glass and less options.To look at it as ,"why would buyers choose less visibility?", is from today's point of view.Back then it was just the way it was and more visibility was a choice.I think it was more for style than visibilty.That's what mirrors are for.

Hey Rene,three door Suburbans are rare...up to '67 and from '73 on.

its funny that everyone dogs it every time gm came out with a new body style the small windows got bigger in the 30 s and 40s they were tiny and then 67 it was perfect just big enough to see and just small enough to be considered a smalll window

sameyrasmea72 · 11-20-2010, 03:30 PM

What you guys are talking about in the last few post, is before alot of our time, and we have no idea what you are talking about.

jk

GOPAPA · 11-20-2010, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by sameyrasmea72

What you guys are talking about in the last few post, is before alot of our time, and we have no idea what you are talking about.

jk

Maybe this will help you ..LOL I and many others in 1965 were making wages of $2.37 @ hour so when the Chevrolet dealership said the Big window was another say $54 ( not real sure on that figure ) it was hard to say ,,Yes! I want it ..

The reason I bought the full window is because I thought like Tim mentioned as it was the coming of age thing and what I bought for a Pickup (thats what most called them back then Pickups...) with chrome and custom cab and all was ,,well "just cool " before them discription words were invented ,,

any thing you do not understand about these threads ,,I am sure I am not the only one on here that from that era to explain things even better than I ..thanks for asking though ,, gp Larry

**67cheby** · 11-20-2010, 05:15 PM

i will add one more to the Panoramic club my grandfather drove this for 25 years ,and it is a factory Big Back Glass 67 , Custom had all of the look but none of the extras ie.. pwr brks, auto, air

ChevLoRay · 11-20-2010, 06:32 PM

Big windows were usually a deluxe appointment. Some people just wanted to get all that they could. You older guys will recall the list of "Dealer Installed Item" on the window stickers. I have a brother-in-law, whose dad bought a new Ford in '55. It was the plain-jane version...virtually no side trim. Still, it had a V8, a radio and overdrive. His dad had it outfitted with all of the chrome trim that the Fairlane's had on 'em from the factory. Nephew still has the car and he's retiring at the end of the year. Here's a one-owner '67 that belongs to a guy I work with. He just had the 283 rebuilt last spring and added power steering from a '70. He's had it repainted, twice, with the last paint job costing more than he paid for the truck when it was new.

jablack · 11-20-2010, 06:59 PM

My 67 Custom Camper has a big back window. I like being able to see..

eagleuh1 · 11-20-2010, 07:02 PM

I like it. Nice clean original. And a big back window.

dhaymaker · 11-20-2010, 08:32 PM

I can add to the big back window '67 total. I've had 3 of them, 2 had CST trim and 1 looked like the others, but did not have the CST badge on the door, etc. I'm not sure if the third truck had been repainted and the badges removed or if there was another trim level during the 1967 model year where the bbw option could still be ordered.

I think the bbw option makes the truck look better overall. Evidently, someone in a position of power within Chevrolet agreed with me, as everything obviously went to the bbw format for 1968 and on.

qksilver · 11-20-2010, 09:19 PM

If I remember , Harley Earl designed the 67 the way he wanted to, the powers that be changed a few things later.

Steve

VA72C10 · 11-20-2010, 09:39 PM

I guess my rust free small window cab isn't worth much now

GOPAPA · 11-20-2010, 09:58 PM

Look here ,,67 for sale and no mention of a big back window..

So ,I guess not every body sees a 67 with a big back window as being a selling item in advertising it for sale ..

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/2066348003.html

**LockDoc** · 11-20-2010, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by VA72C10

I guess my rust free small window cab isn't worth much now

Nope! You have two choices, scrap it or sell it to me for 199 bucks. You know, it will cost me a lot of gas money to come and get it...

LockDoc

Vintage Windmills · 11-20-2010, 10:17 PM

Its mysteries like this that make this era of vehicles so interesting.

I wonder how many have had a newer cab swapped in over the years. Theres probably more big back windows now due to this?

11-20-2010, 09:23 AM	#1
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	'67 Panoramic #? After looking at a thread on the purchase of a very nice original big window '67 where this question was asked,I wonder if a number of big windows produced is even known.Someone mentioned they heard the number was (IIRC) 167 and wasn't sure how accurate that was.Others asked in that thread and I thought a new thread was in order.Is there such info out there?I know there are no numbers on this option and that,but this is an actual body panel difference and maybe that stat is out there somewhere.We'll probably never know the true number of Chevy "and" GMCs produced.I'm sure it's way more than 167. If nothing else,it's something to think about. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

11-20-2010, 10:15 AM	#2
sameyrasmea72 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Lubbock, Texas Posts: 2,443	Re: '67 Panoramic #? You heard a total of 167 big window 67 cabs? That can't be right, I have had at least 3, so I figure there has to be tons more than 167. __________________ 72 Cheyenne Super 80 Silverado Blazer 2wd

11-20-2010, 10:21 AM	#3
too much stuff Roadtrip! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Grand Rapids MN Posts: 13,813	Re: '67 Panoramic #? I would say that number is alot higher. I have one and have seen a couple posted on the board recently. That brings us up to 6 in 2 replies. I also have a couple of glovebox doors with that option, but not sure where the trucks are... __________________ 67 gmc custom lwb dakota truck. Sold...And bought back 69 swb 4x4 project (in progress) 70 c-10 lwb texas truck 70 4x4/BB/bkts/posi/tach(retired) 70 swb (wifes) 70 jimmy camper 71 K-5 factory 2wd 71 cheyenne 4x4/tach/posi/ plow rig 71 Cheyenne20 BB, buckets, tach, tilt, 4 speed 72 jimmy CST wyoming rig 72 jimmy Colorado rig 72 lifted texas 4x4 3/4 ton burb 65 fury conv. 383/auto 65 chrysler 300 "L" 413 auto

11-20-2010, 10:40 AM	#4
Shane Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: over yonder Posts: 14,270	Re: '67 Panoramic #? I have one. That makes 7 and I've never had much of anything considered "rare" ...

11-20-2010, 11:44 AM	#6
71 super Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Canton North carolina Posts: 3,080	Re: '67 Panoramic #? Most of the 67 trucks around here had the optional bg window, I would think the small window would be actually more rare, sense at that time it should have been somewhat less desirable. I mean why chose limited visablity when you can actually see blindspots etc.? __________________ 67 blue step side- bb 68 gold and white swb cst anniversary 68 custom swb hot rod Ls swap 69 swb cst 6 cylinder/ overdrive 69 black/black cst bb swb 70 orange and white cst Canada built truck swb bb 71 black and white super swb bb 71 red and white super swb 72 green and white super swb 4x4 62 nova wagon 400 series Ls swapped 68 Camaro 327/4 speed- 1 owner, original paint 66 Volkswagen bettle 69 auto stick Volkswagen Beetle

11-20-2010, 11:50 AM	#7
lolife99 67-72 parts collector,… Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 22,703	Re: '67 Panoramic #? About 99% of the '67 trucks I have seen are the small back window trucks. I would call the bbw 67's rare. __________________ Keith Convert to disc brakes. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=444823

11-20-2010, 02:10 PM	#8
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: '67 Panoramic #? 167 is way off,for sure.But,the majority of '67s were definitely small windows.Most CST/Super Customs had the panoramic and those that didn't are rare.The rest were generally small glass with the exception being large.Going from '67 to '72 the number of higher optioned trucks multiplied in a major way.Basic trucks were the norm in '67.Figure in years before,which '67s are the last link,most trucks had small glass and less options.To look at it as ,"why would buyers choose less visibility?", is from today's point of view.Back then it was just the way it was and more visibility was a choice.I think it was more for style than visibilty.That's what mirrors are for. Hey Rene,three door Suburbans are rare...up to '67 and from '73 on. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

11-20-2010, 02:24 PM	#9
fast_dev Registered User Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Ringtown,PA Posts: 555	Re: '67 Panoramic #? i have one, its a 67 short fleet 4x4 with a 292 and a 4 speed. not much other options but the panoramic option is in the glove box __________________ 68 chevy 406 small block, budget drag racer, new best e.t 11.91 @112 67 nova numbers matching 327 4 speed 13.6 @ 102mph 70 longhorn c-30 402/4 speed 70 c-10 swb 402, muncie 4 speed 94 s-10 350/th350 3:73 posi 71 c-20 402/th400 towrig for racetruck. 72 4wd lifted on 35's 72 350/3 speed winter beater

11-20-2010, 03:20 PM	#11
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: '67 Panoramic #? Larry,I have a question for you.so,why did you buy a truck with a big back window,anyway? I think you were a visionary and knew they-d all be that way in another 4 years.You wanted style "and" when that coastal Oregon sun was shinin' you wanted all you could get.Hey,not everybody trashes a truck by working out of them.Some folks take care of their stuff. What you describe was the general take on trucks back then,though.But,obviously GM saw the market for the options or they would have never been offered. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

11-20-2010, 03:25 PM	#12
67chevy1series Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: a t w a t e r cali 95301 Posts: 10,713	Re: '67 Panoramic #? im not saying this becauce i have one but i have sat in my truck and adjusted the mirrors to me and i had no blind spots i found a car behind me and made sure i couls see it through my side mirror and my rear view mirror and yes the bbw probably are rare but think about it thai way that is the last time chevy gmc made a small window for there 1/2ton to 1 ton models but if i was alive in 67 72 i would have bought a 67 cst withall the options except for the rv juinor mirrors but with a small window Last edited by 67chevy1series; 11-20-2010 at 03:26 PM.

11-20-2010, 03:30 PM	#14
sameyrasmea72 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Lubbock, Texas Posts: 2,443	Re: '67 Panoramic #? What you guys are talking about in the last few post, is before alot of our time, and we have no idea what you are talking about. jk __________________ 72 Cheyenne Super 80 Silverado Blazer 2wd Last edited by sameyrasmea72; 11-20-2010 at 03:31 PM.

11-20-2010, 05:15 PM	#16
67cheby 67cheby Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: siloam springs ar 72761 Posts: 17,890	Re: '67 Panoramic #? i will add one more to the Panoramic club my grandfather drove this for 25 years ,and it is a factory Big Back Glass 67 , Custom had all of the look but none of the extras ie.. pwr brks, auto, air __________________ Check out Slosh Tubz, bolt-in inner fenders for frame laying C-10's Slosh Tubz Introductory Price $559 67 Cheby's Dropmember Build Thread Slosh Tubz on Facebook http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=554172

11-20-2010, 06:32 PM	#17
ChevLoRay Old Skool Club Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Benton, AR "The Heart of Arkansas" Posts: 10,880	Re: '67 Panoramic #? Big windows were usually a deluxe appointment. Some people just wanted to get all that they could. You older guys will recall the list of "Dealer Installed Item" on the window stickers. I have a brother-in-law, whose dad bought a new Ford in '55. It was the plain-jane version...virtually no side trim. Still, it had a V8, a radio and overdrive. His dad had it outfitted with all of the chrome trim that the Fairlane's had on 'em from the factory. Nephew still has the car and he's retiring at the end of the year. Here's a one-owner '67 that belongs to a guy I work with. He just had the 283 rebuilt last spring and added power steering from a '70. He's had it repainted, twice, with the last paint job costing more than he paid for the truck when it was new. Attached Images __________________ Member Nr. 2770 '96 GMC Sportside; 4.3/SLT - Daily driven....constantly needs washed. '69 C-10 SWB; 350/TH400 - in limbo The older I get, the better I was.

11-20-2010, 06:59 PM	#18
jablack Classic Chevy Recycler Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 422	Re: '67 Panoramic #? My 67 Custom Camper has a big back window. I like being able to see.. __________________ 2004 Chevrolet Trailblazer EXT 1970 Chevrolet C50 1979 Chevrolet C30 Need another 67 or 68 soon...

11-20-2010, 07:02 PM	#19
eagleuh1 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Russellville, Arkansas Posts: 1,699	Re: '67 Panoramic #? I like it. Nice clean original. And a big back window.



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11-20-2010, 08:32 PM	#20
dhaymaker Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Peyton, CO Posts: 448	Re: '67 Panoramic #? I can add to the big back window '67 total. I've had 3 of them, 2 had CST trim and 1 looked like the others, but did not have the CST badge on the door, etc. I'm not sure if the third truck had been repainted and the badges removed or if there was another trim level during the 1967 model year where the bbw option could still be ordered. I think the bbw option makes the truck look better overall. Evidently, someone in a position of power within Chevrolet agreed with me, as everything obviously went to the bbw format for 1968 and on. __________________ don "The DRBMan" 2014 Audi A4 (The Wife's Daily Driver) 2017 HD Ultra (The Cruiser) 2003 HD Fatboy (The Ride) 2001 Chevy Suburban (Another back up!!) For the first time in forever, not a single 67-72 Chevy truck, Blazer, or Suburban on the property! Basically retired and getting the new Motorhome ready for some traveling. Doing a bit of work on the house getting it ready to sell! LOL!!

11-20-2010, 09:19 PM	#21
qksilver Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern Pines NC Posts: 3,853	Re: '67 Panoramic #? If I remember , Harley Earl designed the 67 the way he wanted to, the powers that be changed a few things later. Steve

11-20-2010, 09:39 PM	#22
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11-20-2010, 09:58 PM	#23
GOPAPA Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nampa Idaho Posts: 7,567	Re: '67 Panoramic #? Look here ,,67 for sale and no mention of a big back window.. So ,I guess not every body sees a 67 with a big back window as being a selling item in advertising it for sale .. http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/2066348003.html __________________ When you learn a thing a day you store up smart.

11-20-2010, 10:17 PM	#25
Vintage Windmills Vintage 4x4s Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Prior Lake, MN Posts: 4,305	Re: '67 Panoramic #? Its mysteries like this that make this era of vehicles so interesting. I wonder how many have had a newer cab swapped in over the years. Theres probably more big back windows now due to this?

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