The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > General Truck Forums > Engine & Drivetrain

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-05-2011, 05:27 PM   #1
BillyDeluxe
Registered User
 
BillyDeluxe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Nuremberg, Germany
Posts: 88
WEIAND vs. Edelbrock intake?

Guys.
I am thinking of a new intake manifold for my 65 C10. It has a bored 350 with a S.P.2.P Edelbrock intake manifold and a 600cfm Edelbrock carb. Rest is mostly stock.

One of my part dealers told me that Edelbrock is producing in China since a couple of years and has a few quality issues because of that. He also told me that WEIAND would be the better choice because of better quality. So I am a bit confused if I should go for a WEIAND or Edelbrock intake.

I really would appreciate to receive your feedback and experiences on that.
Thanks
Andreas
BillyDeluxe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2011, 07:06 PM   #2
towersddg9
Registered User
 
towersddg9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Texas
Posts: 246
Re: WEIAND vs. Edelbrock intake?

I bought the WEIAND air strike from summit, sent it back, very cheaply made in china the ports were crude looking, I had them send me the RPM air gap HUGE difference plus it says right on top made it the USA, Holly bought out WEIAND and sub out the some of these to China
towersddg9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2011, 07:26 PM   #3
sjarrett71
Registered User
 
sjarrett71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Rolla, MO
Posts: 2,463
Re: WEIAND vs. Edelbrock intake?

I'm sure if Vic knew your parts dealer was telling people Edelbrock products were being made oversees, he would set him straight! Edelbrock prides themselves on "Made in America".
__________________
-Scott-
sjarrett71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2011, 07:39 PM   #4
blackedoutharley
Account Suspended
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Plumas Lake, Ca.
Posts: 1,009
Re: WEIAND vs. Edelbrock intake?

Edelbrock... period

On a stock motor the Performer RPM is all the intake you will ever need and will be a huge improvement over the old SP2P you have now (which was a pretty good unit in its day).

I don't know if the air gap is worth the extra $$$
blackedoutharley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2011, 09:30 PM   #5
str8axle55
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Weymouth Ma
Posts: 489
Thumbs up Re: WEIAND vs. Edelbrock intake?

Quote:
Originally Posted by sjarrett71 View Post
i'm sure if vic knew your parts dealer was telling people edelbrock products were being made oversees, he would set him straight! Edelbrock prides themselves on "made in america".


x2.
__________________
03 GMC Yukon XL 2500 Quadrasteer, wife`s DD
84 Chevy K30 CC SRW
55 Chevy 210 2dr post

Last edited by str8axle55; 02-05-2011 at 09:30 PM.
str8axle55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2011, 10:43 PM   #6
chopped65
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Alabaster, AL
Posts: 104
Re: WEIAND vs. Edelbrock intake?

Edelbbrock only and always for intake manifolds.

Holley only and always for carbuereters.
__________________
65 Chevy C-20
Chopped 3", Doors Suicided, completely shaved, 650 hp BBC
chopped65 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2011, 12:37 AM   #7
198plus
Registered User
 
198plus's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Loganville, Ga.
Posts: 1,408
Re: WEIAND vs. Edelbrock intake?

Edelbbrock
198plus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2011, 01:37 AM   #8
Captainfab
60-66 Nut

 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho
Posts: 23,252
Re: WEIAND vs. Edelbrock intake?

X3

Quote:
Originally Posted by sjarrett71 View Post
i'm sure if vic knew your parts dealer was telling people edelbrock products were being made oversees, he would set him straight! Edelbrock prides themselves on "made in america".
__________________
Power Steering Box Adapter Plates For Sale HERE
Power Brake Booster Adapter Brackets For Sale '63-'66 HERE and '67-'72 HERE and '60-'62 HERE and "60-'62 with clutch HERE
Rear Disc Brake Brackets For Sale. Impala SS calipers HERE Camaro Calipers HERE D52 Calipers HERE 6 Lug HERE
Hydroboost Mounting Plates HERE
Captainfab is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2011, 07:12 AM   #9
BillyDeluxe
Registered User
 
BillyDeluxe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Nuremberg, Germany
Posts: 88
Arrow Re: WEIAND vs. Edelbrock intake?

Thanks Guys.

So I go for an Edelbrock Performer or Performer Air Gap. Does anyone know if it is worth to spent the 100 bugs more for the Air Gap intake? I am not sure if it really deliveres more power than the standard Performer.

Thanks, Andreas
BillyDeluxe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2011, 09:24 AM   #10
fleetsidelarry
Senior Car Nut
 
fleetsidelarry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: shellman bluff, GA
Posts: 1,411
Re: WEIAND vs. Edelbrock intake?

Quote:
Originally Posted by BillyDeluxe View Post
Thanks Guys.

So I go for an Edelbrock Performer or Performer Air Gap. Does anyone know if it is worth to spent the 100 bugs more for the Air Gap intake? I am not sure if it really deliveres more power than the standard Performer.Thanks, Andreas
Recently there have been some really great discussions about Air Gap manifolds, including some dyno comparison videos, over on Chevy Talk's performance forum. I'll try to get a couple of links posted here shortly.

bottom line is, yes, they "make more power". question you have to honestly ask yourself is: "do they make this extra power where its useful to me, based to how I intend to drive".

Remember dyno tests do not measure throttle response and fuel mileage, factors hugely important in normal driving.

I currently have an RPM Air Gap. I am thinking of replacing it with something without the notch.
__________________
Larry

Last edited by fleetsidelarry; 02-06-2011 at 09:28 AM.
fleetsidelarry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2011, 10:39 AM   #11
fleetsidelarry
Senior Car Nut
 
fleetsidelarry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: shellman bluff, GA
Posts: 1,411
Re: WEIAND vs. Edelbrock intake?

for your reading enjoyment (all of these tie together, sometimes drift off-topic):

http://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/sh...hp?tid/254755/

http://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/sh...hp?tid/254859/

this one has the videos:

http://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/sh...hp?tid/254821/

there was also a couple of threads that discussed heating the plenum on an air gap style manifold to make it more "street friendly"
__________________
Larry

Last edited by fleetsidelarry; 02-06-2011 at 10:50 AM.
fleetsidelarry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2011, 11:36 AM   #12
Rannos
Registered User
 
Rannos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: New Caney, Texas
Posts: 356
Re: WEIAND vs. Edelbrock intake?

Personally I would go with the RPM performer for a stock to mild build. The Airgap is worth the money if you can fit it into you budget. It will make a lil more power and should offer you more mpg as well, as the intake charge is cooler. As far as Weiand goes I use to only buy Weiand till they were bought out by Holley. Now the intakes I liked to use are either (a.) no longer available or (b.) made overseas and aren't any better quality then the cheap ebay intakes you can get new for $100.
Rannos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2011, 11:38 AM   #13
Heater63
Registered User
 
Heater63's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: N Texas
Posts: 580
Re: WEIAND vs. Edelbrock intake?

Let me pile on!
Edelbrock!
Made in USA!
Great carbs, great intakes.
Performer for street, ( most of us ), Air Gap if you race it some and spend time in the higher rpm band
Posted via Mobile Device
__________________
292 + TKO500
Heater63 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2011, 12:25 PM   #14
fleetsidelarry
Senior Car Nut
 
fleetsidelarry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: shellman bluff, GA
Posts: 1,411
Re: WEIAND vs. Edelbrock intake?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rannos View Post
Personally I would go with the RPM performer for a stock to mild build. The Airgap is worth the money if you can fit it into you budget. It will make a lil more power and should offer you more mpg as well, as the intake charge is cooler. As far as Weiand goes I use to only buy Weiand till they were bought out by Holley. Now the intakes I liked to use are either (a.) no longer available or (b.) made overseas and aren't any better quality then the cheap ebay intakes you can get new for $100.
I think under long period cruise conditions such as interstate driving, that could be the case. in my experience, however, for "around town" driving, you can expect worse mileage. part of my problem is the notched plenum of the RPM Air Gap, but, from what I've been reading, there is also not enough heat for proper atomization for, again, "around town". mine runs great in the above 1500 rpm range.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Heater63 View Post
Let me pile on!
Edelbrock!
Made in USA!
Great carbs, great intakes.
Performer for street, ( most of us ), Air Gap if you race it some and spend time in the higher rpm bandPosted via Mobile Device
I'd agree with that. again, its all about getting educated about what's going on and being honest with ones self about the type of driving that one will be doing 90% of the time.
__________________
Larry
fleetsidelarry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2011, 01:01 PM   #15
lakeroadster
Account Suspended
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: High Plains of Colorado
Posts: 2,485
Re: WEIAND vs. Edelbrock intake?

In regards to the Edelbrock and the "made in China" comment here is an interesting thread on that topic. It appears the counterfitters even go as far as to put registered trade names on their knock off's now!

http://www.camaros.net/forums/archiv.../t-136931.html

Last edited by lakeroadster; 02-06-2011 at 01:02 PM.
lakeroadster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2011, 02:04 PM   #16
likaroc13
Rollin' Old Skool
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Hattiesburg, MS
Posts: 5,371
Re: WEIAND vs. Edelbrock intake?

Quote:
Originally Posted by fleetsidelarry View Post
I think under long period cruise conditions such as interstate driving, that could be the case. in my experience, however, for "around town" driving, you can expect worse mileage. part of my problem is the notched plenum of the RPM Air Gap, but, from what I've been reading, there is also not enough heat for proper atomization for, again, "around town". mine runs great in the above 1500 rpm range.



I'd agree with that. again, its all about getting educated about what's going on and being honest with ones self about the type of driving that one will be doing 90% of the time.
glad this came up...what about the regular Air Gap (not RPM) intake?...i currently have a polished Performer and want to switch to an original finish intake...gotta decide if I wanna go back to regular Performer, Air Gap, etc....my engine is a basically stock 327 w/ Powerglide...i also have the Edelbrock Performer 600cfm carb, but i am thinking about switching to a Q-jet when replacing intake
likaroc13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2011, 12:11 AM   #17
fleetsidelarry
Senior Car Nut
 
fleetsidelarry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: shellman bluff, GA
Posts: 1,411
Re: WEIAND vs. Edelbrock intake?

likaroc, from what I've been reading (and I invite you to read thru those linked threads I posted), the less motor we have the less we need an Air Gap (notch or not). Your powerglide is also a factor.

BTW, I'm pretty sure my next carb will be a Q-jet. I currently run the 1406 Edelbrock and have a basket full of Holleys sitting on the shelf.
__________________
Larry
fleetsidelarry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2015, 03:33 AM   #18
SonomaComa
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Sonoma County California
Posts: 83
Re: WEIAND vs. Edelbrock intake?

What is the difference between the Edelbrock Performer and the Performer EPS?
SonomaComa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2015, 09:06 AM   #19
ol_skool_chevy
Registered User
 
ol_skool_chevy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Hillsboro, Oregon 97123
Posts: 1,300
Re: WEIAND vs. Edelbrock intake?

Edelbrock.....I love the RPM line but as far as the Air Gap goes. Its a great performer as long as the engine gets up to temperature to heat the intake. Not a good intake for short drives. plus its a pain in the Ass to keep clean in the underside water and dirt and oil gets caught up in there. The lower dual plane RPM would be a better choice ....This is just one mans Option
__________________
Measure with a yard stick
Mark with Chalk
Cut with a torch



Built it yourself, don't count on others to to do it for you or with you. It will never get done
ol_skool_chevy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2015, 12:13 PM   #20
AcampoDave
Registered User
 
AcampoDave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: central California
Posts: 2,776
Re: WEIAND vs. Edelbrock intake?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SonomaComa View Post
What is the difference between the Edelbrock Performer and the Performer EPS?
The original can accommodate both square and spread bore carbs, while the eps is a square bore only. It also puts the carb a tad higher. The eps is advertised as getting a few more ponies and a bit more torque over the original.
AcampoDave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2015, 12:47 PM   #21
GASoline71
"I ain't nobody, dork."
 
GASoline71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Whidbey Island, Washington
Posts: 8,971
Re: WEIAND vs. Edelbrock intake?

4 year old thread...

Gary
__________________
'cuz chicks dig scars...

My 1972 GMC 1500 Super Custom (Creeping Death) "long term" build thread.

The Rebuild of Creeping Death after the wreck

Quote:
Originally Posted by LONGHAIR View Post
I would never rebuild a 305.
Quote:
Originally Posted by prostreetC-10 View Post
I love using vacuum gauges as part of the carb tuning process. I hook the gauge to the inside of my garbage can and leave it there.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marv D View Post
Remember Murphys 2nd law of mechanical relationships... "OPPOSING COMPONENTS ATTEMPTING TO OCCUPY THE SAME SPACE, AT THE SAME TIME, GENERALLY END UP OCCUPYING ADJOINING SPACE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE OIL PAN"
Quote:
Originally Posted by cableguy0 View Post
Its cheaper to listen to advice given when you ask for help than it is to ignore everyone and wait for carnage.
GASoline71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2015, 11:00 PM   #22
LostMy65
But Found Her 25yrs Later!
 
LostMy65's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Oregon City, Oregon
Posts: 10,530
Re: WEIAND vs. Edelbrock intake?

4 year old thread, but still interesting information.
I'd rather see someone bump an old thread that might have some applicable information, than start a new thread on a topic that's been asked many times over.
__________________
I lost my 65 - Found it 25 years later:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=426650

66 C20 Service Truck:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=428035
LostMy65 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2015, 11:09 PM   #23
likaroc13
Rollin' Old Skool
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Hattiesburg, MS
Posts: 5,371
Re: WEIAND vs. Edelbrock intake?

Quote:
Originally Posted by LostMy65 View Post
4 year old thread, but still interesting information.
I'd rather see someone bump an old thread that might have some applicable information, than start a new thread on a topic that's been asked many times over.
__________________
_____________________________________________
Phillip

My Build threads:
1966 Chevy C-10 "Black Betty"

shortbed, fleetside, BBW, 327 V8/ Powerglide (under construction)
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...ighlight=betty

1997 Chevy Tahoe, 2dr/2wd, mild custom (Daily driver)
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=601142

Pics:
'66 C-10 https://flic.kr/s/aHsjHWD4h9
'97 Tahoe https://flic.kr/s/aHsjGZ7wKP
'93 C-1500 https://flic.kr/s/aHskxdpdnQ
'88 S-10 Blazer https://flic.kr/s/aHsjYGx4Md

Previous Rides:
1993 Chevy S-10 ext. cab, 4.3L, 4/5 drop (Sold)
1993 Chevy C-1500 short/step Retro-Rod (Sold)
1988 S-10 Blazer 2dr/2wd mild custom (Sold)
likaroc13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2015, 11:46 AM   #24
GASoline71
"I ain't nobody, dork."
 
GASoline71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Whidbey Island, Washington
Posts: 8,971
Re: WEIAND vs. Edelbrock intake?

Funny thing is... a cat's question can usually get lost or skipped over when bumping an ancient thread. This one got "lucky".

Gary
__________________
'cuz chicks dig scars...

My 1972 GMC 1500 Super Custom (Creeping Death) "long term" build thread.

The Rebuild of Creeping Death after the wreck

Quote:
Originally Posted by LONGHAIR View Post
I would never rebuild a 305.
Quote:
Originally Posted by prostreetC-10 View Post
I love using vacuum gauges as part of the carb tuning process. I hook the gauge to the inside of my garbage can and leave it there.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marv D View Post
Remember Murphys 2nd law of mechanical relationships... "OPPOSING COMPONENTS ATTEMPTING TO OCCUPY THE SAME SPACE, AT THE SAME TIME, GENERALLY END UP OCCUPYING ADJOINING SPACE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE OIL PAN"
Quote:
Originally Posted by cableguy0 View Post
Its cheaper to listen to advice given when you ask for help than it is to ignore everyone and wait for carnage.
GASoline71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2015, 02:03 PM   #25
snj8198
Registered User
 
snj8198's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Star Valley, WY
Posts: 2,038
Re: WEIAND vs. Edelbrock intake?

Our atmosphere here is a little more tolerant than other enthusiast sites. Some unnamed sites are very quick to flame when basic questions are raised that have been discussed in the past and the search function wasn't used. I find starting a new thread about a topic works best on this forum while also pasting the researched/supporting thread in the new one to work best. It seems to keep everyone informed as to what specifically the new thread is referring to as well as lets others know you do your homework.

With that said... who wants to argue over carburetors again?!?!?!
__________________
Steve
1971 GMC Longbox. Full Roller Stroker 489 w/ FiTech EFI, Chris Straub Cam/NV4500/205/D60/14B w. Grizzly Locker and 4.11's. 2" Lift on 33's
snj8198 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:42 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com