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BUXMAN66 · 03-28-2003, 02:15 AM

yeah, got one for you guy's that's did the van column ugrade for our trucks.got the jumper pig-tail for the turn signal,but what's the separate gray(?) wire for,... the shift ind. light? also.... what about the 4 pronged assembly on the top of the column that's held on by a couple of screws?.....is this the back-up light hook-up??? mines a 68swb.....auto,with non original no-pwr.st. column.makes sense???.thanks for any re: buxman66

and god bless our troops!!

Hooter · 03-28-2003, 03:42 AM

th grey wire is for the light, the other thing is the neutral safety switch/ back up lights

BUXMAN66 · 03-28-2003, 01:54 PM

thanks hooter.

junkyardjohn · 03-28-2003, 04:57 PM

THAD ---- I'VE DONE ALOT OF THESE CONVERSIONS, & IF YOU NEED ANY HELP, OR HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR PROBLEMS, FEEL FREE TO EMAIL ME, & I,D BE GLAD TO HELP OUT ANY WAY I CAN. JOHN

Solver · 03-29-2003, 12:36 AM

John how did you reattach the neutral saftey switch? Do you cut a new hole further down on column?How do you know where to cut.I have a couple of van tilits and I understand the shortening(collapsing) process(IE drilling out the shaft shear pins). But I have yet to see any pictures of how anyone handles the neutral saftey switch relocation. So as of yet they just set there.
Thanks
Solver

junkyardjohn · 03-29-2003, 02:25 AM

I've relocated the nuetral safety switches on a couple of collums. Its just a matter of removing it from the collum where it
s at, & duplicate the hole about 8" farther down the collum shaft. The only tools you really need to do it, is a drill & a die grinder.
More often than not I just jump the purple nuetral safety switch wire. Sorry I don't have any pictures.

BUXMAN66 · 03-29-2003, 03:21 AM

what exactly is a "neutral safety switch " anyhoo? i presently don't have one on my '68. and how does it interact/work w/ the back-up lights?btw,thanks john for the column and the good pkging you done!it arrived in great cond.! i took the shift ind. hood off and polished the alum. housing and it looks great. **p.s. i think i've got a good handle, like solver said, about the drilling out of the shear pins and collapsing the shaft,but do i need to remove the shaft or just the rag joint connector that was still on your column?will my intermediate shaft on my column (thats in my truck,now) go up inside the new column's shaft?what about jumpin' the purple wire....to where/what? p.m. if you want!take care and thanks again......

junkyardjohn · 03-29-2003, 03:31 PM

THAD (BUXMAN) -- TO JUMP THE NUETRAL SAFETY SWITCH, JUST CUT THE PURPLE WIRE GOING IN TO YOUR SWITCH & SPLICE IT IN TO THE PURPLE WIRE COMING OUT. (BYPASSING THE SWITCH ALTOGETHER) IF YOUR TRUCK WAS ORIGINALLY A STICK SHIFT IT WONT HAVE ONE. BE AWARE THAT YOUR TRUCK WILL START IN ANY GEAR NOW.
AS FAR AS MAKING IT SHORTER...... WELL .... IF YOUR 68 HAS AN INTERMEDIATE SHAFT (67s HAVE A SOLID 1 PIECE SHAFT & I HAVE SEEN 68s WITH BOTH. EITHER SOLID 1 PIECE OR 2 PIECE) THE INTERMEDIATE SHAFT IS A DOUBLE "D" COLAPSABLE SHAFT THAT GOES FROM YOUR STEERING GEARBOX TO YOUR COLLUM. IT WILL HAVE A RAG JOINT ON ONE END, & A FEMALE SPLINED END ON THE OTHER. (IF YOUR TRUCK DOESN'T HAVE THIS... YOU'LL NEED ONE) YOU'LL SEE A COUPLE OF ALUMINUM OR PLASTIC SHEAR PINS ABOUT HALFWAY DOWN THE INTERMEDIATE SHAFT. THEY'RE PROBABLY PAINTED OVER, BUT THEY ARE THERE. (THESE WERE PUT IN PLACE BY GM. IN CASE OF A HEAD ON COLLISION, SO YOUR STEERING SHAFT WILL COLLAPSE INSTEAD OF STABBING YOU IN THE CHEST) ( A GOOD IDEA) ANYWAY... DRILL OUT THE PINS ... & COLLAPSE THE SHAFT ABOUT 2 1/2". YOU MAY HAVE TO HIT THE END OF THE SHAFT WITH A B.F.H. TO GET IT TO COLLAPSE. I LIKE TO HAVE THE OLD COLLUMB REMOVED, SO YOU CAN JUST SLIP YOUR NEW ONE IN PLACE & MAKE SURE YOU GET THE RIGHT DISTANCE BETWEEN YOUR SEAT & YOUR STEERING WHEEL. (THERE IS A LITTLE ROOM FOR ADJUSTMENT ROOM TO MAKE IT MORE COMFY FOR FAT GUYS, OR GUYS WITH SHORT ARMS) WHEN YOU GET IT WHERE YOU WANT IT... TIGHTEN ALL THE BOLTS. YOU WONT HAVE TO REPLACE THE SHEAR PINS , AS YOUR INTERMEDIATE SHAFT IS NO DOUBT TIGHTER THAN A NATS BUTT STRETCHED OVER A RAIN BARREL. HOPE THIS HELPS. JOHN

BUXMAN66 · 03-29-2003, 03:38 PM

a gnat's butt over a rain barrell!! lol !! hell, i've got it now, thanks!!

junkyardjohn · 03-29-2003, 09:42 PM

YEP ----- NATS @SS ....... IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO P.M. OR EMAIL ME. JOHN

03-28-2003, 02:15 AM	#1
BUXMAN66 go bucks! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: MIAMISBURG OHIO USA Posts: 803	tilt column ?? yeah, got one for you guy's that's did the van column ugrade for our trucks.got the jumper pig-tail for the turn signal,but what's the separate gray(?) wire for,... the shift ind. light? also.... what about the 4 pronged assembly on the top of the column that's held on by a couple of screws?.....is this the back-up light hook-up??? mines a 68swb.....auto,with non original no-pwr.st. column.makes sense???.thanks for any re: buxman66 and god bless our troops!! __________________ '68 swb 1/2t 350/350th '86 lngbd 3/4 TON parts getter '49 gmc 1/2 t 5 window 350/350th '96 gmc sonoma sle ext-cab. hey it's a 4cyl. 5 spd and good on gas y'know?

03-28-2003, 03:42 AM	#2
Hooter My other Love Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Castlegar B.C. Canada Posts: 4,085	th grey wire is for the light, the other thing is the neutral safety switch/ back up lights __________________ Castlegar B.C.The great white North (Canada Eh!) Hooter_5@hotmail.com First generation Monte Carlo club pictures of my life

03-28-2003, 01:54 PM	#3
BUXMAN66 go bucks! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: MIAMISBURG OHIO USA Posts: 803	thanks hooter. __________________ '68 swb 1/2t 350/350th '86 lngbd 3/4 TON parts getter '49 gmc 1/2 t 5 window 350/350th '96 gmc sonoma sle ext-cab. hey it's a 4cyl. 5 spd and good on gas y'know?

03-28-2003, 04:57 PM	#4
junkyardjohn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SOMERSET KY. Posts: 6,425	THAD ---- I'VE DONE ALOT OF THESE CONVERSIONS, & IF YOU NEED ANY HELP, OR HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR PROBLEMS, FEEL FREE TO EMAIL ME, & I,D BE GLAD TO HELP OUT ANY WAY I CAN. JOHN __________________ junkyardjohn 69 1 TON TOW TRUCK // 84 4WD CUCV BLAZER// 85 1 TON 4WD STAKE TRUCK// 86 M1031 5/4 TON 4WD CUCV// ALOT OF OLD TRUCKS FOR ONE OLD MAN TO DRIVE. THERES ROOM FOR ALL OF GODS CREATURES RIGHT NEXT TO MY MASHED POTATOES// LIFE MEMBER OF P.E.T.A (PEOPLE EATING TASTY ANIMALS) DON'T RENT U-HAUL ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH IT WILL AMAZE PART OF THE PEOPLE & ASTONISH THE REST

03-29-2003, 12:36 AM	#5
Solver Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Storm Lake, Ia Posts: 1,449	John how did you reattach the neutral saftey switch? Do you cut a new hole further down on column?How do you know where to cut.I have a couple of van tilits and I understand the shortening(collapsing) process(IE drilling out the shaft shear pins). But I have yet to see any pictures of how anyone handles the neutral saftey switch relocation. So as of yet they just set there. Thanks Solver __________________ 1972 Cheyenne Super 20 LWB-Blue 1972 Cheyenne Super 10 LWB-Black 1972 Cheyenne Super 10 LWB-Red 1972 Cheyenne Super 10 LWB-green 1972 GMC 4x4 LWB-White 1971 Cheyenne 10 LWB-Ochre 1971 Cheyenne 20 Longhorn-Copper 1971 Cheyenne 20 Longhorn-Black 1969 Custom 10 LWB-lt blue 1968 GMC 3/4 ton-green 1968 1/2 ton swb stepside-silver 1967 Chevrolet CST 10 LWB-green 1967 Chevrolet custom 20 LWB-Maroon

03-29-2003, 02:25 AM	#6
junkyardjohn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SOMERSET KY. Posts: 6,425	I've relocated the nuetral safety switches on a couple of collums. Its just a matter of removing it from the collum where it s at, & duplicate the hole about 8" farther down the collum shaft. The only tools you really need to do it, is a drill & a die grinder. More often than not I just jump the purple nuetral safety switch wire. Sorry I don't have any pictures. __________________ junkyardjohn 69 1 TON TOW TRUCK // 84 4WD CUCV BLAZER// 85 1 TON 4WD STAKE TRUCK// 86 M1031 5/4 TON 4WD CUCV// ALOT OF OLD TRUCKS FOR ONE OLD MAN TO DRIVE. THERES ROOM FOR ALL OF GODS CREATURES RIGHT NEXT TO MY MASHED POTATOES// LIFE MEMBER OF P.E.T.A (PEOPLE EATING TASTY ANIMALS) DON'T RENT U-HAUL ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH IT WILL AMAZE PART OF THE PEOPLE & ASTONISH THE REST

03-29-2003, 03:21 AM	#7
BUXMAN66 go bucks! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: MIAMISBURG OHIO USA Posts: 803	what exactly is a "neutral safety switch " anyhoo? i presently don't have one on my '68. and how does it interact/work w/ the back-up lights?btw,thanks john for the column and the good pkging you done!it arrived in great cond.! i took the shift ind. hood off and polished the alum. housing and it looks great. **p.s. i think i've got a good handle, like solver said, about the drilling out of the shear pins and collapsing the shaft,but do i need to remove the shaft or just the rag joint connector that was still on your column?will my intermediate shaft on my column (thats in my truck,now) go up inside the new column's shaft?what about jumpin' the purple wire....to where/what? p.m. if you want!take care and thanks again...... __________________ '68 swb 1/2t 350/350th '86 lngbd 3/4 TON parts getter '49 gmc 1/2 t 5 window 350/350th '96 gmc sonoma sle ext-cab. hey it's a 4cyl. 5 spd and good on gas y'know?

03-29-2003, 03:31 PM	#8
junkyardjohn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SOMERSET KY. Posts: 6,425	THAD (BUXMAN) -- TO JUMP THE NUETRAL SAFETY SWITCH, JUST CUT THE PURPLE WIRE GOING IN TO YOUR SWITCH & SPLICE IT IN TO THE PURPLE WIRE COMING OUT. (BYPASSING THE SWITCH ALTOGETHER) IF YOUR TRUCK WAS ORIGINALLY A STICK SHIFT IT WONT HAVE ONE. BE AWARE THAT YOUR TRUCK WILL START IN ANY GEAR NOW. AS FAR AS MAKING IT SHORTER...... WELL .... IF YOUR 68 HAS AN INTERMEDIATE SHAFT (67s HAVE A SOLID 1 PIECE SHAFT & I HAVE SEEN 68s WITH BOTH. EITHER SOLID 1 PIECE OR 2 PIECE) THE INTERMEDIATE SHAFT IS A DOUBLE "D" COLAPSABLE SHAFT THAT GOES FROM YOUR STEERING GEARBOX TO YOUR COLLUM. IT WILL HAVE A RAG JOINT ON ONE END, & A FEMALE SPLINED END ON THE OTHER. (IF YOUR TRUCK DOESN'T HAVE THIS... YOU'LL NEED ONE) YOU'LL SEE A COUPLE OF ALUMINUM OR PLASTIC SHEAR PINS ABOUT HALFWAY DOWN THE INTERMEDIATE SHAFT. THEY'RE PROBABLY PAINTED OVER, BUT THEY ARE THERE. (THESE WERE PUT IN PLACE BY GM. IN CASE OF A HEAD ON COLLISION, SO YOUR STEERING SHAFT WILL COLLAPSE INSTEAD OF STABBING YOU IN THE CHEST) ( A GOOD IDEA) ANYWAY... DRILL OUT THE PINS ... & COLLAPSE THE SHAFT ABOUT 2 1/2". YOU MAY HAVE TO HIT THE END OF THE SHAFT WITH A B.F.H. TO GET IT TO COLLAPSE. I LIKE TO HAVE THE OLD COLLUMB REMOVED, SO YOU CAN JUST SLIP YOUR NEW ONE IN PLACE & MAKE SURE YOU GET THE RIGHT DISTANCE BETWEEN YOUR SEAT & YOUR STEERING WHEEL. (THERE IS A LITTLE ROOM FOR ADJUSTMENT ROOM TO MAKE IT MORE COMFY FOR FAT GUYS, OR GUYS WITH SHORT ARMS) WHEN YOU GET IT WHERE YOU WANT IT... TIGHTEN ALL THE BOLTS. YOU WONT HAVE TO REPLACE THE SHEAR PINS , AS YOUR INTERMEDIATE SHAFT IS NO DOUBT TIGHTER THAN A NATS BUTT STRETCHED OVER A RAIN BARREL. HOPE THIS HELPS. JOHN __________________ junkyardjohn 69 1 TON TOW TRUCK // 84 4WD CUCV BLAZER// 85 1 TON 4WD STAKE TRUCK// 86 M1031 5/4 TON 4WD CUCV// ALOT OF OLD TRUCKS FOR ONE OLD MAN TO DRIVE. THERES ROOM FOR ALL OF GODS CREATURES RIGHT NEXT TO MY MASHED POTATOES// LIFE MEMBER OF P.E.T.A (PEOPLE EATING TASTY ANIMALS) DON'T RENT U-HAUL ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH IT WILL AMAZE PART OF THE PEOPLE & ASTONISH THE REST

03-29-2003, 03:38 PM	#9
BUXMAN66 go bucks! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: MIAMISBURG OHIO USA Posts: 803	a gnat's butt over a rain barrell!! lol !! hell, i've got it now, thanks!! __________________ '68 swb 1/2t 350/350th '86 lngbd 3/4 TON parts getter '49 gmc 1/2 t 5 window 350/350th '96 gmc sonoma sle ext-cab. hey it's a 4cyl. 5 spd and good on gas y'know?

03-29-2003, 09:42 PM	#10
junkyardjohn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SOMERSET KY. Posts: 6,425	YEP ----- NATS @SS ....... IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO P.M. OR EMAIL ME. JOHN __________________ junkyardjohn 69 1 TON TOW TRUCK // 84 4WD CUCV BLAZER// 85 1 TON 4WD STAKE TRUCK// 86 M1031 5/4 TON 4WD CUCV// ALOT OF OLD TRUCKS FOR ONE OLD MAN TO DRIVE. THERES ROOM FOR ALL OF GODS CREATURES RIGHT NEXT TO MY MASHED POTATOES// LIFE MEMBER OF P.E.T.A (PEOPLE EATING TASTY ANIMALS) DON'T RENT U-HAUL ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH IT WILL AMAZE PART OF THE PEOPLE & ASTONISH THE REST



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