A/C Air Conditioning install GEN IV Magnum VintageAir 1965 C10 - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

**TR65** · 06-05-2011, 08:20 PM

I use my truck as a daily driver and it gets pretty hot in SC. My wife also asked me to put A/C in the truck (or else she wouldn’t be riding with me in the summer). So, I set about it.
I corresponded with CoolAir our board member that works for VinatgeAir and he recommended that I use the VintageAir GEN IV Magnum unit because of it’s superior electronic controls. VintageAir doesn’t make a GEN IV kit specifically for our trucks so I had to do a custom install based on their universal evaporator kit.
My truck has a LS2 drive-train from a 2005 SSR and I had the OE Sanden scroll compressor. It mounts low on the passenger side, out of sight so I wanted to maintain that. I also wanted to maintain the ECM control of the compressor. The ECM is set up to protect the compressor and to operate the fans to control the high side pressure, so the fans come on only when needed.
I also wanted to minimize the modifications to the truck, no dash chopping, excess hole drilling etc.
I couldn’t find a real detailed custom A/C install thread for our trucks to I decided to document what I did so it could maybe help someone else in the same boat.
The system works great to date. I would certainly recommend VintageAir.

TR

Here are the suppliers and part numbers for the major parts of the A/C install

Drier 4-1003 Aluminum O-ring Receiver Drier Nostalgic Air Parts www.nostalgicairparts.com
Condenser 54-1620 16X20 Superflow R-134A Condenser Nostalgic Air Parts www.nostalgicairparts.com
Heater control plate 38-5093 Cover-Heater Control LMC Truck www.lmctruck.com
Compressor Block GM Style offset raised face - 3/4" tall body - Offset Raised Face Compressor Blocks Doc's Blocks www.docsblocks.com
Miscelaneous small parts, fittings, hard line, o-rings MISC. Doc's Blocks www.docsblocks.com
Vacuum Pump H93-028 15600 6 CFM VAC Pump Johnstone Supply http://www.johnstonesupply.com
Aeroquip A/C Fittings and SS braided A/C hose Reusable A/C fittings and Hose Octane Auto Suply, Amazon, Doc's Blocks several suppliers used based on cost and availability
Pressure Transducer ACDelco 15-5742 Pressure Cycling Switch Amazon- AC-Direct AC-Direct.com
Evaporator Kit 671400-VUZ Gen IV Magnum Evap Kit Vintageair - Wheels of Time street rod parts http://wheels-of-time.com/
GEN IV Controls 491226-RVA Strmln 3 knob pnl kit vert blk anodz Vintageair - Wheels of Time street rod parts http://wheels-of-time.com/
Scroll Compressor Sanden TRSA09K OE on SSR
PAG oil Compressor oil for Sanden scroll compressor 8 oz 46 viscosity w/UV dye A/C Source http://www.acsource.com
Dash Vents 49058-VUQ Outlet Proline Rectangle Vintageair www.vintageair.com

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Max1775 · 06-05-2011, 08:44 PM

Outstanding installation. Very clean! Nice truck as well.

68GMCCustom · 06-05-2011, 10:50 PM

awesome work....as always!

Scottshotrods · 06-06-2011, 12:58 AM

Very detailed pics nice job
Justin

Chevyman680063 · 06-06-2011, 01:31 AM

Wow, you did a really nice job! Can you feel the air blowing on your face with the vents mounted below the dash? My '63 is my daily driver and last week it was around 100 every day. It felt like I was sitting in a dang sauna. My only means of cooling down are a $12 fan that plugs into the cigarette lighter.

61_FL_Apache · 06-06-2011, 07:17 AM

Nice write up on your install.. Outstanding job!!

Heater63 · 06-06-2011, 04:47 PM

Wow. Wow. Wow.
I Love You Man! I have just bought my evap unit and about to start the install as soon as I rehab from shoulder surgery. You will save me tons of time!!

**TR65** · 06-06-2011, 09:35 PM

Thanks for the kind words men!!

I suffered in the heat last summer, it is nice riding in the cool.

TR

**TR65** · 06-06-2011, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Chevyman680063

Wow, you did a really nice job! Can you feel the air blowing on your face with the vents mounted below the dash? My '63 is my daily driver and last week it was around 100 every day. It felt like I was sitting in a dang sauna. My only means of cooling down are a $12 fan that plugs into the cigarette lighter.

Yea, it is NOT a dry heat. Well I was riding in it everyday last week and I didn't have to run the fan much past halfway to be comfortable. You can't blow it in your face but I don't like that anyway.

TR

acool66 · 06-07-2011, 03:25 AM

That is very nice work, something to be proud of. Well done

structures · 06-07-2011, 08:07 AM

Thank you very much for taking time to put this together TR. This is extremely valuable information. Hey thanks for posting in your other thread or I would have completely missed it!

06-05-2011, 08:43 PM	#15
TR65 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 873	Re: A/C Air Conditioning install GEN IV Magnum VintageAir 1965 C10 More Pics #14 Attached Images __________________ 1965 C10 SWB Fleet Two owner LS2 Swap Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=413880

06-05-2011, 08:44 PM	#16
Max1775 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Bandera, Texas Posts: 251	Re: A/C Air Conditioning install GEN IV Magnum VintageAir 1965 C10 Outstanding installation. Very clean! Nice truck as well.

06-05-2011, 10:50 PM	#17
68GMCCustom Truck and auto performance nut Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: McKinney,Texas Posts: 3,848	Re: A/C Air Conditioning install GEN IV Magnum VintageAir 1965 C10 awesome work....as always! __________________ Kurt - '68 GMC short step - NIB '09 LY6 6.0L crate motor w/mods, NIB '12 crate 4L85e w/billet 3k stall Circle D, 3.73 posi 12 bolt, DynaTech f-swap headers, 3/4 drop, handling mods, etc. - my toy '72 Chevy LWB C-10 Highlander - 350/350 ps/pb/tilt/ac - not original but close '06 Chevy TrailBlazerSS - LS2/4L70e - little black hot rod SUV - my DD '18 Kia Sorento - wife's econo-driver '95 Chevy S10 - reg cab shortbed, LS, 4.3, auto... my '68's powertrain and chassis build -links broken A surprise phase - carb to efi -links broken

06-06-2011, 12:58 AM	#18
Scottshotrods Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: oxnard ca Posts: 2,201	Re: A/C Air Conditioning install GEN IV Magnum VintageAir 1965 C10 Very detailed pics nice job Justin

06-06-2011, 01:31 AM	#19
Chevyman680063 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Georgia Posts: 850	Re: A/C Air Conditioning install GEN IV Magnum VintageAir 1965 C10 Wow, you did a really nice job! Can you feel the air blowing on your face with the vents mounted below the dash? My '63 is my daily driver and last week it was around 100 every day. It felt like I was sitting in a dang sauna. My only means of cooling down are a $12 fan that plugs into the cigarette lighter. __________________ 1963 Chevrolet C10 Short Step 1968 Chevrolet C10 Short Step

06-05-2011, 08:20 PM	#1
TR65 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 873	A/C Air Conditioning install GEN IV Magnum VintageAir 1965 C10 I use my truck as a daily driver and it gets pretty hot in SC. My wife also asked me to put A/C in the truck (or else she wouldn’t be riding with me in the summer). So, I set about it. I corresponded with CoolAir our board member that works for VinatgeAir and he recommended that I use the VintageAir GEN IV Magnum unit because of it’s superior electronic controls. VintageAir doesn’t make a GEN IV kit specifically for our trucks so I had to do a custom install based on their universal evaporator kit. My truck has a LS2 drive-train from a 2005 SSR and I had the OE Sanden scroll compressor. It mounts low on the passenger side, out of sight so I wanted to maintain that. I also wanted to maintain the ECM control of the compressor. The ECM is set up to protect the compressor and to operate the fans to control the high side pressure, so the fans come on only when needed. I also wanted to minimize the modifications to the truck, no dash chopping, excess hole drilling etc. I couldn’t find a real detailed custom A/C install thread for our trucks to I decided to document what I did so it could maybe help someone else in the same boat. The system works great to date. I would certainly recommend VintageAir. TR Here are the suppliers and part numbers for the major parts of the A/C install Drier 4-1003 Aluminum O-ring Receiver Drier Nostalgic Air Parts www.nostalgicairparts.com Condenser 54-1620 16X20 Superflow R-134A Condenser Nostalgic Air Parts www.nostalgicairparts.com Heater control plate 38-5093 Cover-Heater Control LMC Truck www.lmctruck.com Compressor Block GM Style offset raised face - 3/4" tall body - Offset Raised Face Compressor Blocks Doc's Blocks www.docsblocks.com Miscelaneous small parts, fittings, hard line, o-rings MISC. Doc's Blocks www.docsblocks.com Vacuum Pump H93-028 15600 6 CFM VAC Pump Johnstone Supply http://www.johnstonesupply.com Aeroquip A/C Fittings and SS braided A/C hose Reusable A/C fittings and Hose Octane Auto Suply, Amazon, Doc's Blocks several suppliers used based on cost and availability Pressure Transducer ACDelco 15-5742 Pressure Cycling Switch Amazon- AC-Direct AC-Direct.com Evaporator Kit 671400-VUZ Gen IV Magnum Evap Kit Vintageair - Wheels of Time street rod parts http://wheels-of-time.com/ GEN IV Controls 491226-RVA Strmln 3 knob pnl kit vert blk anodz Vintageair - Wheels of Time street rod parts http://wheels-of-time.com/ Scroll Compressor Sanden TRSA09K OE on SSR PAG oil Compressor oil for Sanden scroll compressor 8 oz 46 viscosity w/UV dye A/C Source http://www.acsource.com Dash Vents 49058-VUQ Outlet Proline Rectangle Vintageair www.vintageair.com Attached Images __________________ 1965 C10 SWB Fleet Two owner LS2 Swap Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=413880

06-05-2011, 08:21 PM	#2
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61_FL_Apache Who Me? Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Royal Palm Beach, FL Posts: 4,067	Re: A/C Air Conditioning install GEN IV Magnum VintageAir 1965 C10 Nice write up on your install.. Outstanding job!! __________________ Steve 1997 Tahoe LT 4D 2WD (DD) 2001 Blazer 4D 2WD 1961 Apache 10 (sold) 1965 C10 Stepper (sold)

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Heater63 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: N Texas Posts: 580	Re: A/C Air Conditioning install GEN IV Magnum VintageAir 1965 C10 Wow. Wow. Wow. I Love You Man! I have just bought my evap unit and about to start the install as soon as I rehab from shoulder surgery. You will save me tons of time!! __________________ 292 + TKO500

06-06-2011, 09:35 PM	#22
TR65 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 873	Re: A/C Air Conditioning install GEN IV Magnum VintageAir 1965 C10 Thanks for the kind words men!! I suffered in the heat last summer, it is nice riding in the cool. TR __________________ 1965 C10 SWB Fleet Two owner LS2 Swap Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=413880

06-07-2011, 03:25 AM	#24
acool66 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: arizona Posts: 38	Re: A/C Air Conditioning install GEN IV Magnum VintageAir 1965 C10 That is very nice work, something to be proud of. Well done

06-07-2011, 08:07 AM	#25
structures Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: OK Posts: 274	Re: A/C Air Conditioning install GEN IV Magnum VintageAir 1965 C10 Thank you very much for taking time to put this together TR. This is extremely valuable information. Hey thanks for posting in your other thread or I would have completely missed it! __________________ Robert 1965 Chevy C10 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=374373 1997 Chevy K2500 6.5 diesel Last edited by structures; 06-07-2011 at 08:07 AM.

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