The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > General Truck Forums > Engine & Drivetrain > LSx Swaps

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-16-2012, 11:28 PM   #1
kwin
Registered User
 
kwin's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Grande Prairie, Alberta
Posts: 368
Inline pump question

I was planing to use a inline pump for my up comming 6.0 swap but I read an article in one of the truck mags and they claim that the inline pumps are notoriously un-reliable.
Any thoughts or experience to support or disprove this statement?

Thanks
keith
Posted via Mobile Device
kwin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2012, 11:34 PM   #2
ls1nova71
Registered User
 
ls1nova71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Independence Mo
Posts: 4,119
Re: Inline pump question

They're less reliable than an intank pump, but they are easier to change!
__________________
My '72 short bed build. http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/conver...6-0-4l80e.html

5.3 swap into my RUSTY '71 C10
http://ls1tech.com/forums/conversion...71-c-10-a.html
ls1nova71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2012, 12:13 AM   #3
68GMCCustom
Truck and auto performance nut
 
68GMCCustom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: McKinney,Texas
Posts: 3,848
Re: Inline pump question

I think there are several designs...seems like one of them would be fairly reliable?
I had a low pressure A/C-Carter pump for carb'd and it was noisy. New Walbro hi pressure pump for efi is much quieter...hoping it lasts too.
__________________
Kurt -

'68 GMC short step - NIB '09 LY6 6.0L crate motor w/mods, NIB '12 crate 4L85e w/billet 3k stall Circle D, 3.73 posi 12 bolt, DynaTech f-swap headers, 3/4 drop, handling mods, etc. - my toy
'72 Chevy LWB C-10 Highlander - 350/350 ps/pb/tilt/ac - not original but close
'06 Chevy TrailBlazerSS - LS2/4L70e - little black hot rod SUV - my DD
'18 Kia Sorento - wife's econo-driver
'95 Chevy S10 - reg cab shortbed, LS, 4.3, auto...

my '68's powertrain and chassis build -links broken
A surprise phase - carb to efi -links broken
68GMCCustom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2012, 01:05 PM   #4
BR3W CITY
meowMEOWmeowMEOW
 
BR3W CITY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: MKE WI
Posts: 7,128
Re: Inline pump question

Which truck mag did you read that in? The tech in car and truck mags has to be read with a fine toothed comb, as much of their "fact" comes simply from opinion or "accepted consensus" . In line pumps are in cases, less reliable than in-tank pumps, but alot of that has to do with the setup.
Often in-line pumps are mounted too high or too far away from the sump or pickup, which means the pump works harder and isn't being cooled by the fuel. In tanks get the benefit of being submersed. FWIW, I can change the in-line of my truck in prob, 10 minutes or less....it takes me longer than that to drop a tank.
PErformance is also a concern; it doesn't take much to swap to a larger inline, or running twin pumps. While that can be done in tank, its a bit more effort.

The 255lph type pumps from walborough (or whoever makes the same piece for jegs, summit and everyone else), are better at drawing than many others, and a single will support a 6L without much isse.
__________________
'66 Short Step / SD Tuned / Big Cam LQ4 / Backhalfed /Built 4l80e / #REBUILDEVERYTHING

MY BUILD THE H8RDCPTR //\\ MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL REV J HD
BR3W CITY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2012, 04:33 PM   #5
19seventeeCustom
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Downtown
Posts: 573
Re: Inline pump question

^^good to hear, I'm about to install a external Walboro to feed my
cam only LS1......just don't wanna burn the pump up.
19seventeeCustom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2012, 05:49 PM   #6
Daaaanz67
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Idaho
Posts: 857
Re: Inline pump question

I've got one for my conversion. I just made sure the pump was primed before I put power to it.
Posted via Mobile Device
Daaaanz67 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2012, 06:41 PM   #7
kwin
Registered User
 
kwin's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Grande Prairie, Alberta
Posts: 368
Re: Inline pump question

Quote:
Originally Posted by BR3W CITY View Post
Which truck mag did you read that in? The tech in car and truck mags has to be read with a fine toothed comb, as much of their "fact" comes simply from opinion or "accepted consensus" . In line pumps are in cases, less reliable than in-tank pumps, but alot of that has to do with the setup.
Often in-line pumps are mounted too high or too far away from the sump or pickup, which means the pump works harder and isn't being cooled by the fuel. In tanks get the benefit of being submersed. FWIW, I can change the in-line of my truck in prob, 10 minutes or less....it takes me longer than that to drop a tank.
PErformance is also a concern; it doesn't take much to swap to a larger inline, or running twin pumps. While that can be done in tank, its a bit more effort.

The 255lph type pumps from walborough (or whoever makes the same piece for jegs, summit and everyone else), are better at drawing than many others, and a single will support a 6L without much isse.
It was Street Trucks, the articlle about installing an ls in a 50's Ford.
kwin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2012, 11:02 PM   #8
BR3W CITY
meowMEOWmeowMEOW
 
BR3W CITY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: MKE WI
Posts: 7,128
Re: Inline pump question

I'm not saying they are giving false info, but the truth is mag's often sacrifice properly sourced or checked information, in favor of higher volumes of "vanilla" tech and features.

Reliability can also come down to a question of experience; how many cars got a bad wrap for "poor reliability" because the owners refused to spend the time and money to properly operate them.
Great example, the E30 M3. In the mid 80's BMW was using a 2.5L 4 banger that made almost 235 hp, a good amount of push for the time, and even more so to be done from a 4cyl.
The issue? They need valve jobs every 15k.
The result? People who were willing to do the work loved the car for the handling, and power it could deliver as well as its attractive styling. The people who "just bought it cuz it was fast" or "just bought it because its a BMW" ended up making the car a leper.
__________________
'66 Short Step / SD Tuned / Big Cam LQ4 / Backhalfed /Built 4l80e / #REBUILDEVERYTHING

MY BUILD THE H8RDCPTR //\\ MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL REV J HD
BR3W CITY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2012, 12:33 AM   #9
kwin
Registered User
 
kwin's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Grande Prairie, Alberta
Posts: 368
Re: Inline pump question

Quote:
Originally Posted by BR3W CITY View Post
I'm not saying they are giving false info, but the truth is mag's often sacrifice properly sourced or checked information, in favor of higher volumes of "vanilla" tech and features.

Reliability can also come down to a question of experience; how many cars got a bad wrap for "poor reliability" because the owners refused to spend the time and money to properly operate them.
Great example, the E30 M3. In the mid 80's BMW was using a 2.5L 4 banger that made almost 235 hp, a good amount of push for the time, and even more so to be done from a 4cyl.
The issue? They need valve jobs every 15k.
The result? People who were willing to do the work loved the car for the handling, and power it could deliver as well as its attractive styling. The people who "just bought it cuz it was fast" or "just bought it because its a BMW" ended up making the car a leper.
Well said, I was looking for experienced opinions, I think I got a good answer.

Thanks
kwin is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:08 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com