Who has done the 5 lug axle swap - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

65Gregg · 02-20-2013, 10:07 AM

I'm trying to find who you got your axles from, I see prices all over the place and checking to see if I'm missing anyone. All I will need is axles as I have drums etc from my current 5 lug 72 rearend but I'm going to rebuild the original 65 housing to gain a little tire clearence. I'll probably change to a 3.73at the same time, thanks in advance.

**lolife99** · 02-20-2013, 10:17 AM

Look at Summit Racing for Moser axles.
They have good prices.
Buying direct from Moser is also an option.

shawno72 · 02-20-2013, 10:17 AM

I got mine from summit through eBay. Made by Moser and were $272.90 shipped to my door. Check my build thread, just installed them last week.
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65Gregg · 02-20-2013, 10:34 AM

Thanks! I'm on the way to eBay
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Reyals Bemus · 02-20-2013, 10:35 AM

Just bought my Moser conversion axles through Summit. Very happy with them. Since you have a '65, these axles will go right in no problem. Since I have a '64, I had to change the spider gears to 30-spline.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/msr-a3065gmt5

shawno72 · 02-20-2013, 11:13 AM

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Thanks! I'm on the way to eBay
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Here is the item number 390544588849

65Gregg · 02-20-2013, 11:25 AM

Dang you guys are good!

shawno72 · 02-20-2013, 11:28 AM

Just trying to help

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wayno · 02-20-2013, 11:33 AM

So do they not make the moser's for the 64 or do you have to change the spider gears?

shawno72 · 02-20-2013, 11:35 AM

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So do they not make the moser's for the 64 or do you have to change the spider gears?

I'm not sure if Moser does it not buy I know ECE sells a kit that comes with the spider gears. Go to earlyclassic.com
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Reyals Bemus · 02-20-2013, 12:26 PM

Well I talked to ECE when I was looking into converting my '64. They did NOT sell the spider gears. I bought the Moser axles listed above plus a spider gear kit sold by Superior. Both through Summit. Worked well.

wayno · 02-20-2013, 02:24 PM

64 is a transition year from what the guys at ECE told me... it really depends on whether you have the 17 spline or 30 spline - their kit is only good for the 30 spline - so what your saying Bemus makes sense

65Gregg · 02-21-2013, 01:26 PM

I ordered the Moser axles from Summit and a Richmond ring and pinion, installation kit and new axle bearing/seals from Rons Machining( extremly nice and helpful). Both offer free shipping, thanks for the suggestions to all who replied.

GVDobler · 02-21-2013, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 65Gregg

All I will need is axles as I have drums etc from my current 5 lug 72 rearend but I'm going to rebuild the original 65 housing to gain a little tire clearence.

What am I missing? The extra tire clearance? I recall that somewhere they changed the width of the rearend, but I guess I thought it was after '72. What year was the change made and what are the widths?

Also, did you already change the front to 5-lugs and discs.?

Reyals Bemus · 02-21-2013, 10:07 PM

Dobler, I'm pretty sure the width change happened in '70.

SCOTI · 02-22-2013, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Reyals Bemus

Dobler, I'm pretty sure the width change happened in '70.

Correct.... My understanding is that mid year '70, the width increased .75" each side to better match the wider front track width of disc brake set-up starting in '71.

**Captainfab** · 02-22-2013, 01:05 AM

This is my understanding as well.

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Correct.... My understanding is that mid year '70, the width increased .75" each side to better match the wider front track width of disc brake set-up starting in '71.

65Gregg · 02-22-2013, 01:11 PM

As it stands (or sits), I can't pull my rear wheels off without dropping shocks and coils to allow the rearend to drop down enough. I have about a little fingers clearance between the wheel well lip. I hope the additional .75 per side will alleviate the problem. I probably wouldn't be doing this right now but I had an axle seal go this past weekend and I have to tear everything down to do the repair so I figured just fix the old one since it's out and on the ground. The repair should go a lot quicker and with less down time.

brokenspoke · 02-22-2013, 09:23 PM

I know you already bought your axles....however when I did mine it used 72 axles and took to a machine shop and shortened mine 3/4 inch per side...cost me 35 bucks

65Gregg · 02-22-2013, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by brokenspoke

I know you already bought your axles....however when I did mine it used 72 axles and took to a machine shop and shortened mine 3/4 inch per side...cost me 35 bucks

The upside is I will have a complete 72 rear end still left over as a backup or to help cover the cost of all the parts I ordered.
Have you given anymore thought on a date to try and do the HAMB meet at Holder's? Are you going to Hoedown?
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mgchevyparts · 02-22-2013, 10:22 PM

Why didn't you just redrill your stock axles from 6 to 5 lug (at machine shop)?

brokenspoke · 02-23-2013, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 65Gregg

The upside is I will have a complete 72 rear end still left over as a backup or to help cover the cost of all the parts I ordered.
Have you given anymore thought on a date to try and do the HAMB meet at Holder's? Are you going to Hoedown?
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I'm patiently waiting for some sunshine on a Saturday afternoon

Not sure on the Hoedown yet...

65Gregg · 02-23-2013, 10:49 AM

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Why didn't you just redrill your stock axles from 6 to 5 lug (at machine shop)?

The stock axles are 45 plus years old and have some wear in the seal area, now I'll have everything new for another 45 years. :-)
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brokenspoke · 02-23-2013, 07:50 PM

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The stock axles are 45 plus years old and have some wear in the seal area, now I'll have everything new for another 45 years. :-)
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You did good
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**Captainfab** · 02-24-2013, 01:38 AM

With the axle being the inner race for the wheel/axle bearing, that area does tend to wear also. Any money spent on modifying worn axles would be better spent on new axles IMO. If your axles are not worn at all, then by all means modify as needed and use them, but that is typically not the case in my experience.

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Originally Posted by brokenspoke

I know you already bought your axles....however when I did mine it used 72 axles and took to a machine shop and shortened mine 3/4 inch per side...cost me 35 bucks

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Originally Posted by mgchevyparts

Why didn't you just redrill your stock axles from 6 to 5 lug (at machine shop)?

Wise decision

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Originally Posted by 65Gregg

The stock axles are 45 plus years old and have some wear in the seal area, now I'll have everything new for another 45 years. :-)
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02-20-2013, 10:07 AM	#1
65Gregg Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Willis, Texas Posts: 754	Who has done the 5 lug axle swap I'm trying to find who you got your axles from, I see prices all over the place and checking to see if I'm missing anyone. All I will need is axles as I have drums etc from my current 5 lug 72 rearend but I'm going to rebuild the original 65 housing to gain a little tire clearence. I'll probably change to a 3.73at the same time, thanks in advance. __________________ 65Gregg Blue long bed White TBSS 61 Impala “The two most important days in your life are the day you are born and the day you find out why.” Mark Twain

02-20-2013, 10:17 AM	#2
lolife99 67-72 parts collector,… Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 22,700	Re: Who has done the 5 lug axle swap Look at Summit Racing for Moser axles. They have good prices. Buying direct from Moser is also an option. __________________ Keith Convert to disc brakes. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=444823

02-20-2013, 10:17 AM	#3
shawno72 C/10 junkie Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Stockton Ca Posts: 9,093	Re: Who has done the 5 lug axle swap I got mine from summit through eBay. Made by Moser and were $272.90 shipped to my door. Check my build thread, just installed them last week. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ Shawn 70 LWB C10 current driver/project http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=663051 68 SWB C10 Work in progress.....SOLD http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=559520 72 LWB C10 Sold 71 LWB C10 Sold 68 LWB C10 CST Sold http://youtu.be/kbB0QrBIs9k My mom always had the best advice. It was just a tad late. After a fall that involved blood, she'd say....."Careful!"

02-20-2013, 10:34 AM	#4
65Gregg Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Willis, Texas Posts: 754	Re: Who has done the 5 lug axle swap Thanks! I'm on the way to eBay Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 65Gregg Blue long bed White TBSS 61 Impala “The two most important days in your life are the day you are born and the day you find out why.” Mark Twain

02-20-2013, 10:35 AM	#5
Reyals Bemus Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Billerica, MA Posts: 329	Re: Who has done the 5 lug axle swap Just bought my Moser conversion axles through Summit. Very happy with them. Since you have a '65, these axles will go right in no problem. Since I have a '64, I had to change the spider gears to 30-spline. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/msr-a3065gmt5

02-20-2013, 11:25 AM	#7
65Gregg Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Willis, Texas Posts: 754	Re: Who has done the 5 lug axle swap Dang you guys are good! __________________ 65Gregg Blue long bed White TBSS 61 Impala “The two most important days in your life are the day you are born and the day you find out why.” Mark Twain

02-20-2013, 11:28 AM	#8
shawno72 C/10 junkie Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Stockton Ca Posts: 9,093	Re: Who has done the 5 lug axle swap Just trying to help Posted via Mobile Device __________________ Shawn 70 LWB C10 current driver/project http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=663051 68 SWB C10 Work in progress.....SOLD http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=559520 72 LWB C10 Sold 71 LWB C10 Sold 68 LWB C10 CST Sold http://youtu.be/kbB0QrBIs9k My mom always had the best advice. It was just a tad late. After a fall that involved blood, she'd say....."Careful!"

02-20-2013, 11:33 AM	#9
wayno Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Woolwich Twp, NJ Posts: 445	Re: Who has done the 5 lug axle swap So do they not make the moser's for the 64 or do you have to change the spider gears? __________________ 64 Step Side - The Mistress

02-20-2013, 12:26 PM	#11
Reyals Bemus Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Billerica, MA Posts: 329	Re: Who has done the 5 lug axle swap Well I talked to ECE when I was looking into converting my '64. They did NOT sell the spider gears. I bought the Moser axles listed above plus a spider gear kit sold by Superior. Both through Summit. Worked well.

02-20-2013, 02:24 PM	#12
wayno Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Woolwich Twp, NJ Posts: 445	Re: Who has done the 5 lug axle swap 64 is a transition year from what the guys at ECE told me... it really depends on whether you have the 17 spline or 30 spline - their kit is only good for the 30 spline - so what your saying Bemus makes sense __________________ 64 Step Side - The Mistress

02-21-2013, 01:26 PM	#13
65Gregg Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Willis, Texas Posts: 754	Re: Who has done the 5 lug axle swap I ordered the Moser axles from Summit and a Richmond ring and pinion, installation kit and new axle bearing/seals from Rons Machining( extremly nice and helpful). Both offer free shipping, thanks for the suggestions to all who replied. __________________ 65Gregg Blue long bed White TBSS 61 Impala “The two most important days in your life are the day you are born and the day you find out why.” Mark Twain

02-21-2013, 10:07 PM	#15
Reyals Bemus Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Billerica, MA Posts: 329	Re: Who has done the 5 lug axle swap Dobler, I'm pretty sure the width change happened in '70.

02-22-2013, 01:11 PM	#18
65Gregg Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Willis, Texas Posts: 754	Re: Who has done the 5 lug axle swap As it stands (or sits), I can't pull my rear wheels off without dropping shocks and coils to allow the rearend to drop down enough. I have about a little fingers clearance between the wheel well lip. I hope the additional .75 per side will alleviate the problem. I probably wouldn't be doing this right now but I had an axle seal go this past weekend and I have to tear everything down to do the repair so I figured just fix the old one since it's out and on the ground. The repair should go a lot quicker and with less down time. __________________ 65Gregg Blue long bed White TBSS 61 Impala “The two most important days in your life are the day you are born and the day you find out why.” Mark Twain

02-22-2013, 09:23 PM	#19
brokenspoke Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Anderson, Texas Posts: 535	Re: Who has done the 5 lug axle swap I know you already bought your axles....however when I did mine it used 72 axles and took to a machine shop and shortened mine 3/4 inch per side...cost me 35 bucks

02-22-2013, 10:22 PM	#21
mgchevyparts Registered User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Upland, Calif Posts: 698	Re: Who has done the 5 lug axle swap Why didn't you just redrill your stock axles from 6 to 5 lug (at machine shop)?



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