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Old 05-05-2013, 09:08 PM   #1
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Pondering a trade, somebody help!

So I'm considering trading my grandpa's original 65 Chev c20 in very nice condition for a showroom condition '65 Corvair 140. Quite a difference I know, but I never drive the truck and as much as I love it, it just sits because it's just not that much fun to drive for a classic, with manual everything. Am I crazy?

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Old 05-05-2013, 09:30 PM   #2
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Re: Pondering a trade, somebody help!

Keep the truck. We had a corvair and sold it to get a 61 apache for my wife. Corvairs are nice, and pretty car, but the are high maintenance and a headache to work on. Similar to working on old school air cooled aircraft engines. Lost of tin and shrouds on the engine. Plus the truck was your grandfathers, it has history. Once its sold to someone else, its just an old truck, keep it in the family.

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Old 05-05-2013, 09:32 PM   #3
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Re: Pondering a trade, somebody help!

I'd say don't do it, partially because it's a beautiful truck, but also because it was your grandfather's truck. I'd keep it in the family if possible. Also, you can add things like power windows, brakes and steering to the truck if you need more modern amenities. My $.02.
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Old 05-05-2013, 09:35 PM   #4
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Re: Pondering a trade, somebody help!

The truck may not be a fun "classic" to drive around and cruise.. But--it's super practical when that Corvair will be the death of you and the birth of your anger for getting rid of the truck. Just cuz it's "showroom"--unless there is some deep-rooted love for the cars or a sympathy for the oddities.... Keep the truck.. You'll wish you did after you're driving that oddball corvair..

(this is coming from a guy who likes oddballs--but not corvairs..)

Just a few questions--
1. Why do you want the Corvair?
2. Did you love your Grandpa?
3. Do you ever have a need for a truck or do you own a later model truck?
4. You whimper about the "manual" aspect of the truck--have you gotten some souped up Corvair with power everything?????
5. Do you know the history of the Corvair?
6. How old are you that you are interested in ditching the truck for a worthless Corvair?
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Old 05-05-2013, 10:01 PM   #5
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If it was your grandpa's corvair, maybe...
I would give it to another family member before I'd sell it.
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Old 05-05-2013, 10:56 PM   #6
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Re: Pondering a trade, somebody help!

reallyI'd say a lot depends on the condition of each. Generally speaking, trucks are on their way up in value and corvairs are.... well, not so much. That said, the truck is a 3/4 ton and that puts it back in line with the 'vair as far as mass popularity goes. The sad fact is few people want either. Don't get me wrong, I happen to be a fan of BOTH. I dare say any that pan the Corvair must not have any real experience in one. These cars are a gas to drive and if you add the extra HP of the 140, then it's just fun on top of fun. I'm actually looking forward to restoring my own mothballed '66 180 coupe here in the future.
So, how are they each equipped for options, and of course condition is everything. Restored? Original? Low miles?
I do agree with the sentiment that you can't ever buy grandpas truck ever again, but there ARE lots of Corvairs are out there. Yes even 140's.

EDIT: I just checked out your truck a bit through older posts, and I gotta say it's pretty nice. The Grandpa factor puts it yet higher on the niceness scale. This Corvair would really have to be something special for me to even think of a trade.

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Old 05-05-2013, 10:59 PM   #7
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Old 05-05-2013, 11:14 PM   #8
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Rather than trade, change what you don't like about the truck and keep the original parts in case you ever want to convert it back. Best of both worlds, you keep gramps truck and you get a joy to drive.
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Old 05-05-2013, 11:53 PM   #9
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I would never trade that beautiful truck for a corvair...Im willing to bet just about everyone on this forum would give anything to own their grandfathers truck too...I know I would!
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Old 05-06-2013, 02:40 AM   #10
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Re: Pondering a trade, somebody help!

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If it was your grandpa's corvair, maybe...
I would give it to another family member before I'd sell it.
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Old 05-06-2013, 03:22 AM   #11
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Re: Pondering a trade, somebody help!

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I would never trade that beautiful truck for a corvair...Im willing to bet just about everyone on this forum would give anything to own their grandfathers truck too...I know I would!
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Rather than trade, change what you don't like about the truck and keep the original parts in case you ever want to convert it back. Best of both worlds, you keep gramps truck and you get a joy to drive.
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I'd say don't do it, partially because it's a beautiful truck, but also because it was your grandfather's truck. I'd keep it in the family if possible. Also, you can add things like power windows, brakes and steering to the truck if you need more modern amenities. My $.02.

I will go with the rest of the guys here, if I ever had the chance to own anything, any where similar that was once owned by my grandpa I would keep it until I'm too old to stick with it and then inherit it to my children and tell them the story.

Speaking about showroom.. If you have a showroom vehicle, how much would you accually dare to drive it? And the your truck looks like winner from this picture!
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Old 05-06-2013, 04:27 AM   #12
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Re: Pondering a trade, somebody help!

Since this is a truck enthusiast site I imagine most of the responses will be to keep the truck. And being a family heirloom would make that an easy decision for most of us, since seller’s remorse can be so much more heartbreaking.

It wouldn’t be all that difficult to add power steering and brakes while maintaining most of the originality. And since these trucks came with automatic transmissions, that could also be converted to look stock if needed.

If you really don’t like or want the truck I’d suggest selling it for top dollar and buying whatever you truly dream of owning. Unless that ultimate dream car is a Corvair, I’d be looking for something else.

Just from personal experience I would have very little interest in owning a Corvair, regardless of condition. I used to work on them back in the 60’s and I hated the things. The crankcase leaked like a sieve and as best I remember the bolts were 1/4x20 and owners snapped them off with regularity trying to stop the leaks. My job was drilling out/extracting the broken bolts which got old real fast. Riding in one left an impression of being a very cheap car. My dad had a V6 62 Buick Special and it had the same feel, along with the first generation Tempest and Olds F85.

And they had a rather unforgiving tendency to flip over, driving straight and level down the road if the tire pressures weren’t maintained properly. Corvairs were originally designed to include a rear sway bar which the bean counters removed, saving $5.00 per car. This made them dangerously unstable (again with improper air pressure in the tires). At the time the sway bar could be purchased for $35.00 retail, but few owners understood the urgency. This was one of the highlighted issues in the Ralph Nader book “Unsafe at Any Speed”. The negative publicity led to the downfall of the Corvair, and caused the introduction of most of the GM safety improvements in the late 60’s. When these were current automobiles Ernie Kovacs (a household name/comedian back then) was killed in one, which further dropped their popularity.

The bottom line on this site for every owner is you should own what you love. Unless you’ve been an avid Corvair fan all your life, I’d suggest researching the breed before deciding this is your dream ride.
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Old 05-06-2013, 07:28 AM   #13
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Re: Pondering a trade, somebody help!

Take it from the elders here, the corvair is nothing more than a can of worms, worst mistake of your life...even if someone gave you one....!
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Old 05-06-2013, 07:44 AM   #14
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Yes, you are definately crazy!! (you asked).

bad trade, bad idea, ...keep the truck. you'll regret getting rid of it, in the future.

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Old 05-06-2013, 07:50 AM   #15
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Re: Pondering a trade, somebody help!

I had a friend that had Corvairs back when I was in the Army, he had to tinker with his " showroom Spider" just to get it going in the mornings, he had a ramp side, coupes and a convertible, all needed to be massaged alot to stay running and none were a jump in and go kind of vehicle.
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:54 AM   #16
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Re: Pondering a trade, somebody help!

It's something I've been struggling with for a long time, since I really never drive the truck because it eats so much gas too. I just don't know. I do really like Corvairs, I've had one, but honestly the truck probably has more value. Another option is to *shudder* trade for a nice 60's Mustang.

It I was to make changes to the truck, I'd want them to look original, I wish I had the running gear out of my old '66 Custom Camper. Auto everything.
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Old 05-06-2013, 11:46 AM   #17
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All im gonna say is, family history is hard to get back.
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Old 05-06-2013, 11:51 AM   #18
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Corvairs are a small market. You can convert your truck to power easily.
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Old 05-06-2013, 11:55 AM   #19
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I love classic cars but no way I'd trade that truck for a Corvair. I might trade for a muscle car. Seller's remorse is likely to follow.
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Old 05-06-2013, 12:16 PM   #20
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What a pretty truck....and the fact that it was your Grandpa's. I would not do it. That car will never attract the market that the truck will. The truck can be converted to power brakes, steering and all that.

I think you have prob. come to the wrong group of people asking if they would trade a 60-66 truck for a Corvair.
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Old 05-06-2013, 12:24 PM   #21
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The Corvair club would probably tell him to keep the truck also
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No!

But please post and tell us your decision. Then post 6 months later and tell us we were right.
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Keep the truck....my 1/2 cents...
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Keep the truck man!!!!!! It is a rare thing when someone asks were you got the truck and you tell them its been in the family since your grandfather owned it. I wish my truck was owned by a prior member of the family! And another thing, not to be rude; but since I am a professed tyrant of ford I would say it would be the biggest mistake to trade an awsome chevy like that for a ford. Ford equals Fix Or Repair Daily(saying that from experience my friend!) If I were to trade it(Which mind you I would not by anymeans!) I would trade it for another truck the same chevy truck the same year with your tastes done to it or just re-restore your grandfathers truck the way you want it. Or you could give it to me! just kidding! I hope you keep the truck.
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