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Slammed67 · 10-21-2003, 10:08 AM

This was discussed a while ago, but I can't seem to find the information. On a stock height 2WD short bed 1/2 ton truck, what is the distance between the center of the wheel to the top of the fender opening? I thought it was 19" in the front and 22" in the rear. Can somebody verfiy this for me?

Thanks,

Jason

dubie · 10-21-2003, 10:54 AM

I just measured mine and it was 22" in the front and 20" in the rear. But that's on a box under load and a front end with a 6 banger in it

zyggy72 · 10-21-2003, 11:17 AM

The only thing I have ever seen about stock suspension heights is measured from the ground to the top center of the wheel opening in the fender (slammed67 - your top 2 red lines) If I remember correctly, the heights were 32" in the front and 34" in the rear.

**Yukon Jack** · 10-21-2003, 12:31 PM

Here's info from the 1969 resto pack.

Slammed67 · 10-21-2003, 12:32 PM

I guess I should be more specific. I'm trying to figure out how much my truck is lowered from stock height. Measuring from the ground to the top of the fender doesn't do much good since there are too many variables involved like wheel size, tire size, air pressure in tires, etc. Measuring from the center of the wheel is the most accurate way to do it since the dimension will be the same regardless of tire size, etc.

Therefore, I would also need the measurement to be from a truck with an empty bed

Suicide-D · 10-21-2003, 01:59 PM

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...threadid=21128

Suicide-D · 10-21-2003, 02:00 PM

19" all the way around from the center of the wheel to the lip

chevy_fatman · 10-21-2003, 05:27 PM

Mi '69 was also 19" from the ground, here's another thread.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...threadid=19367

Hugger · 10-21-2003, 10:54 PM

I just dropped mine with a 3.5" front, and 5" rear.
Front is 14.75"
Rear is 17"
So that fits with the 22" rear stock height, but the front at 19" stock would make mine a 4.25 front drop...
Stan or someone at ECE told me this front dimension at one time, when I was trying to decide what drop to go with.

Suicide-D · 10-21-2003, 11:04 PM

I'll measure my 70 in the morning it's stock...

Suicide-D · 10-22-2003, 09:19 AM

I got 19.5" all the way around on the 70. from the center of the wheel to the lip. All of the trucks I have measured have been coil spring trucks, I don't know if the leaf spring trucks are different.

Where is this 22" measurement on the rear coming from?

Slammed67 · 10-22-2003, 10:15 AM

It can't be 19.5" front and rear on a stock truck. These trucks were higher in the rear. Are your rear springs sagging?

Here is a pic of a stock height truck from Early Classic's site......

Suicide-D · 10-22-2003, 10:34 AM

They must be sagging.(unless someone has done something before I owned it) What do you think... I don't think it has as much rake as the above picture...

Hugger · 10-22-2003, 11:07 AM

ECE told me that the rear springs, compressed (installed in the truck) should be 12.5" to 13". Mine were 10.5" before the swap, so they were already sagging about 2"+ before the swap.
I have not measured the springs after the swap, will do tonight.

Also my stock daily driver does not have the rake that even Dirt Dobbers has, let alone the pictures on the ECE website. I will measure it tonight as well. I would guess it to be the same dimensions front to rear, as it does not have any rake to speak of...years of overloading a 1/2 ton (not by me of course!!

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Hugger · 10-22-2003, 11:13 AM

Just saw this thread that was dug up from 2002.
FYI-
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...threadid=19367

mcmlxix · 10-22-2003, 11:14 AM

I measured the distance between the fender lip and the current tires I have on the truck. I wanted to figure out what drop I wanted. Well they are both the same front and back.( I think it was 5 inches for both. I can only assume that the springs are sagging. My worry is that when I dopt it, I wont have the amount I was looking for because of the old springs. I think I will just lower the front first and then match the back later....

Slammed67 · 10-22-2003, 11:19 AM

Well, I guess I could unbolt my rear bags and jack up the rear of my truck until the distance between the trailing arm and frame is 12.5", then I'd know my answer.

Hugger · 10-22-2003, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mcmlxix
I measured the distance between the fender lip and the current tires I have on the truck. I wanted to figure out what drop I wanted. Well they are both the same front and back.( I think it was 5 inches for both. I can only assume that the springs are sagging. My worry is that when I dopt it, I wont have the amount I was looking for because of the old springs. I think I will just lower the front first and then match the back later....

mcmlxix - You need to measure down to the center of the wheel...not the top of the tire.
You should get a better result this way.

dinnut · 10-22-2003, 08:57 PM

ahh.. the stock height rake. i wish it would die

bagged trucks rock

dont get me wrong.i like rakes just not when they are this frickin high

tommie · 10-22-2003, 09:56 PM

slammed
i got 19.5 in the front and 20 in the rear
70 chevy short fleet, with 350 and 700r4, 15x7 wheels with 235/75/15

i am sure that the rear is sagging on mine...
it looks level not at all like the pics from early classics

tommie

10-21-2003, 10:08 AM	#1
Slammed67 Progress = 0% Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 2,108	Stock suspension height? This was discussed a while ago, but I can't seem to find the information. On a stock height 2WD short bed 1/2 ton truck, what is the distance between the center of the wheel to the top of the fender opening? I thought it was 19" in the front and 22" in the rear. Can somebody verfiy this for me? Thanks, Jason Attached Images __________________ Jason - '67 GMC swb \| '57 Bel-Air 4dr hardtop \| '56 210 4dr Wagon \| 2000 GMC Sierra

10-21-2003, 10:54 AM	#2
dubie Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Flin Flon, Manitoba, Canada Posts: 8,853	I just measured mine and it was 22" in the front and 20" in the rear. But that's on a box under load and a front end with a 6 banger in it __________________ My name's Tim and I'm a truckaholic My 56 Chevy shop truck build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=562795

10-21-2003, 12:31 PM	#4
Yukon Jack Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Rose Hill, KS, USA Posts: 12,686	Here's info from the 1969 resto pack. Attached Images __________________ 1970 Blazer with a 400 sbc and 4" lift 1980 Pontiac Trans Am, 455 Oldsmobile 2012 Kawasaki Concours 14

10-21-2003, 12:32 PM	#5
Slammed67 Progress = 0% Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 2,108	I guess I should be more specific. I'm trying to figure out how much my truck is lowered from stock height. Measuring from the ground to the top of the fender doesn't do much good since there are too many variables involved like wheel size, tire size, air pressure in tires, etc. Measuring from the center of the wheel is the most accurate way to do it since the dimension will be the same regardless of tire size, etc. Therefore, I would also need the measurement to be from a truck with an empty bed __________________ Jason - '67 GMC swb \| '57 Bel-Air 4dr hardtop \| '56 210 4dr Wagon \| 2000 GMC Sierra

10-21-2003, 10:54 PM	#9
Hugger Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 137	I just dropped mine with a 3.5" front, and 5" rear. Front is 14.75" Rear is 17" So that fits with the 22" rear stock height, but the front at 19" stock would make mine a 4.25 front drop... Stan or someone at ECE told me this front dimension at one time, when I was trying to decide what drop to go with. Attached Images __________________ 72 LWB - Hugger Orange 350/350 3.73 Next; 335hp GM Crate

10-21-2003, 11:17 AM	#3
zyggy72 Can't kick the addiction! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Riverton, CT 06065 Posts: 402	The only thing I have ever seen about stock suspension heights is measured from the ground to the top center of the wheel opening in the fender (slammed67 - your top 2 red lines) If I remember correctly, the heights were 32" in the front and 34" in the rear.

10-21-2003, 01:59 PM	#6
Suicide-D Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Katy, TX...but the love of my life resides in Dublin,OH. Posts: 1,408	http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...threadid=21128

10-21-2003, 02:00 PM	#7
Suicide-D Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Katy, TX...but the love of my life resides in Dublin,OH. Posts: 1,408	19" all the way around from the center of the wheel to the lip

10-21-2003, 05:27 PM	#8
chevy_fatman Where's my beer? Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I live in the state of denial.... Posts: 5,620	Mi '69 was also 19" from the ground, here's another thread. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...threadid=19367

10-21-2003, 11:04 PM	#10
Suicide-D Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Katy, TX...but the love of my life resides in Dublin,OH. Posts: 1,408	I'll measure my 70 in the morning it's stock...

10-22-2003, 09:19 AM	#11
Suicide-D Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Katy, TX...but the love of my life resides in Dublin,OH. Posts: 1,408	I got 19.5" all the way around on the 70. from the center of the wheel to the lip. All of the trucks I have measured have been coil spring trucks, I don't know if the leaf spring trucks are different. Where is this 22" measurement on the rear coming from?

10-22-2003, 10:15 AM	#12
Slammed67 Progress = 0% Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 2,108	It can't be 19.5" front and rear on a stock truck. These trucks were higher in the rear. Are your rear springs sagging? Here is a pic of a stock height truck from Early Classic's site...... __________________ Jason - '67 GMC swb \| '57 Bel-Air 4dr hardtop \| '56 210 4dr Wagon \| 2000 GMC Sierra

10-22-2003, 10:34 AM	#13
Suicide-D Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Katy, TX...but the love of my life resides in Dublin,OH. Posts: 1,408	They must be sagging.(unless someone has done something before I owned it) What do you think... I don't think it has as much rake as the above picture... Attached Images

10-22-2003, 11:07 AM	#14
Hugger Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 137	ECE told me that the rear springs, compressed (installed in the truck) should be 12.5" to 13". Mine were 10.5" before the swap, so they were already sagging about 2"+ before the swap. I have not measured the springs after the swap, will do tonight. Also my stock daily driver does not have the rake that even Dirt Dobbers has, let alone the pictures on the ECE website. I will measure it tonight as well. I would guess it to be the same dimensions front to rear, as it does not have any rake to speak of...years of overloading a 1/2 ton (not by me of course!! ) __________________ 72 LWB - Hugger Orange 350/350 3.73 Next; 335hp GM Crate

10-22-2003, 11:13 AM	#15
Hugger Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 137	Just saw this thread that was dug up from 2002. FYI- http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...threadid=19367 __________________ 72 LWB - Hugger Orange 350/350 3.73 Next; 335hp GM Crate



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10-22-2003, 11:14 AM	#16
mcmlxix Collector of Projects Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 3,106	I measured the distance between the fender lip and the current tires I have on the truck. I wanted to figure out what drop I wanted. Well they are both the same front and back.( I think it was 5 inches for both. I can only assume that the springs are sagging. My worry is that when I dopt it, I wont have the amount I was looking for because of the old springs. I think I will just lower the front first and then match the back later.... __________________ Rich 1972 K5 Blazer CST Click HERE D60 BIG BRAKE UPGRADE Click HERE

10-22-2003, 11:19 AM	#17
Slammed67 Progress = 0% Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 2,108	Well, I guess I could unbolt my rear bags and jack up the rear of my truck until the distance between the trailing arm and frame is 12.5", then I'd know my answer. __________________ Jason - '67 GMC swb \| '57 Bel-Air 4dr hardtop \| '56 210 4dr Wagon \| 2000 GMC Sierra

10-22-2003, 08:57 PM	#19
dinnut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: missouri city, tx Posts: 4,486	ahh.. the stock height rake. i wish it would die bagged trucks rock dont get me wrong.i like rakes just not when they are this frickin high Attached Images __________________ 70 longbed 496/th400/Ford 9"

10-22-2003, 09:56 PM	#20
tommie 97' Tahoe 2dr/2wd Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Huffman,TX Posts: 1,168	slammed i got 19.5 in the front and 20 in the rear 70 chevy short fleet, with 350 and 700r4, 15x7 wheels with 235/75/15 i am sure that the rear is sagging on mine... it looks level not at all like the pics from early classics tommie

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