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05-24-2017, 10:52 AM | #1 |
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Why convert to short bed?
Doing a lot of researching and reading lately. Wanting to know everyone's opinion on why converting to a short bed is so popular, I've even seen that it increases value. In my opinion that would start making long beds more of a rarity and increase the long bed value right? I have a long bed and plan on keeping it that way. Do short beds drive better? Just needing some insight.
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05-24-2017, 10:57 AM | #2 |
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Re: Why convert to short bed?
It's just a "sportier" look...I have a long bed and plan on keeping it that way as well. But '67 long beds don't look as long to me either. Without the rear marker light the bedside just doesn't look so long. Again that's me.
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05-24-2017, 11:01 AM | #3 |
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Re: Why convert to short bed?
I've never had one but I imagine they are quicker and easier to park.
Rarity alone does not equal value. IMO, a truck with a ridiculous bed somehow looks "cute" or at least odd. and somehow has gained value over a standard or Longhorn bed. Personally I like to use trucks and I require a bed that can accommodate more than a bicycle or my Costco purchases.
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05-24-2017, 11:05 AM | #4 |
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Re: Why convert to short bed?
There is in no way a shortage of longbeds at this time... (there's a pun in there somewhere) when they were new they outsold shortbeds about 4 to 1.
I believe there's a few reasons: 1. They look sportier 2. I've been checking my local craigslist for years, and good shortbeds aren't exactly plentiful. And when a good one does go up for sale, it's gone quickly. 3. There's A LOT of good longbeds out there, with very reasonable prices, it's sometimes cheaper to cut down an extremely nice LB vs buying a SB (this is actually what I've done with a clean AZ fleet bed for my swb truck). I've driven both... the longbeds ride nicer due to the extra length and weight. The shortbeds handle better.
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05-24-2017, 12:05 PM | #5 |
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Re: Why convert to short bed?
Short beds are a sporty fun look.
Long beds are more practical for work. The older these trucks get the less time they get working and the more time people spend looking at them, so the short bed becomes the desirable look. I spent a couple of years looking for a good short bed and then decided to be contrarian and restore a Longhorn instead, the exact opposite almost. I'm happier than I would have been with a stubby, but the stubby would be worth 2X as much I bet!
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05-24-2017, 12:10 PM | #6 |
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Re: Why convert to short bed?
Rare doesn't always mean desirable.
Most people convert to short beds because these trucks are seen as toys now and not work vehicles.
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05-24-2017, 12:18 PM | #7 |
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Re: Why convert to short bed?
its 100% aesthetics. a shortbed truck has a much more proportionate body (bed is close to the length of the cab/fenders) and thus it looks more uniform.
Longbeds are a lot more useful but sometimes that bed looks like it goes on forever behind that cab. If your buying a truck for WORK your probably not worried about looks, but the MAJORITY of people buying "classic" trucks are not buying them for WORK, but as a pleasure vehicle. The lines on a 67-72 c10 short fleet look pretty darn good... I always think of it as a 2-door vs 4-door thing with classic cars. try to figure out from a practical reason why a 2-door 1955 chevy is worth 5x more than the SAME 1955 chevy that has 4 doors. the 4-door cost MORE new. Aesthetics play a HUGE role in classic car desirability. |
05-24-2017, 12:34 PM | #8 |
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I reject the 2-door v 4-door analogy though... a 4-door car is worth next to nothing to most people but I don't think that's true of regular bed trucks!
If you've ever wanted to compare directly on the "same" truck, I made this.
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05-24-2017, 12:38 PM | #9 |
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Re: Why convert to short bed?
Shortbed convert here. Personally, I shortened my truck simply for the fact that I like the way the shortbeds look on a lowered truck. I think the general consensus is that the proportions of a shortbed look better on a lowered and/or performance oriented truck. Since many of the trucks we see here and at shows are mostly for fun and looking good, most of them are shortbeds. Not many are going to bring their longbed work trucks to a show so you don't see those as much, but as mentioned above they do outnumber the shorties about 4 to 1. When I see a truck in the wild, it's almost always a longbed being put to work. As far as handling goes, I honestly could not tell any difference in the way my truck drove after the shortbed conversion. It may have an effect on more performance oriented trucks, but the stock longbed to stock shortbed feel on my truck was indistinguishable.
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That said, I wouldn't buy a long-bed C10 unless a) I specifically planned on shortening it or b) had 6BT Cummins plans in mind... short beds just look alot better aesthetically for me. all that said, I have NO problem with people who own long beds, they are a lot more useful, and can make great platforms for a awesome classic truck. I admire ones I see, but personally have no desire to own one. |
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05-24-2017, 08:57 PM | #11 |
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Re: Why convert to short bed?
I sold my '64 C10 because it was a shortbed. I bought my '72 Cheyenne because it was a longbed. I'd originally planned to buy a '64-'66 longbed, but the Cheyenne came up & I decided to go for it. (Wish I'd have held out for the '64-'66 LWB, though).
But then again, I don't see these trucks as finacial investments, or as sporty vehicles. They're trucks. Slammed, big wheels, shortbeds- not my thing. But that's what makes the hobby go 'round- the variety. |
05-24-2017, 09:07 PM | #12 |
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Re: Why convert to short bed?
I prefer the standard length and factory height.
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05-24-2017, 09:16 PM | #13 |
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Re: Why convert to short bed?
Thank you all for your inputs. I do plan on keeping mine long and as stock and original as possible. Only mod I want to do is go from a 1 ton to 1/2 suspension. Just for better daily driving.
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05-24-2017, 09:26 PM | #14 |
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Re: Why convert to short bed?
Here is an analogy using a vintage 60's Mustang.
The Mustang had a fast back model and the notch back model (ignoring the convertible). Why is the fastback FAR, FAR more desirable? Because it looks great and presents the best proportions for the car. Today, a fastback brings almost double the price of the notch back and are becoming more and more difficult to find. The long bed PU is a COMMERCIAL body. It is all about function and utility. However, plenty of people love the long bed. The short bed PU is a civilian body. It offers style, looks and proportion for many other people. It's your call.
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05-24-2017, 09:40 PM | #15 |
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Re: Why convert to short bed?
i keep telling people go ahead and keep cutting down those longbeds it just makes the shortbeds more valuble. just my 2 cents
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05-24-2017, 10:15 PM | #16 |
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Re: Why convert to short bed?
I kind of like my long bed. I think the proportions are nicer than a short bed when I have a tool box in it. But it's not a strong preference. The truck I found happened to be a long bed so that's what I ended up with. I think parking in my garage would be significantly better with a short bed, and I'm not always hauling huge amounts of stuff, so cutting it down or just buying a short bed may be in my future. I've even thought about getting an old Chevy Luv.
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05-24-2017, 11:36 PM | #17 |
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Re: Why convert to short bed?
My dad's old blue must be the only one that was stretched into a longbed.
Needed to pull a car trailer and carry a 8' camper. And 3/4 ton front x member and a dana 60
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05-25-2017, 06:27 AM | #18 |
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Re: Why convert to short bed?
Sometimes you just get tired of the market and what people think their short beds are worth. I like a long bed as long as it belongs to some one else. I think a whole lot of it is a generational thing too. The younger crowd seems to like the long and us more seasoned folks lean towards the short ones. Not always, but often. I am running a tab on the cost of my conversion and so far it has run me about 80 bucks to convert my 67 from long to short. The bedsides are all I like and the rest is restoration, no matter if its long or short, it costs pretty much the same. Is it worth more? Probably not. Is it a more desirable truck? Maybe to some. Bottom line, the only person I have to please is me, and so far I am.
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05-25-2017, 06:49 AM | #19 |
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Re: Why convert to short bed?
When I started looking for a classic truck I really had no preference whether long or short. When it came to short beds in my neck of the woods they were either non existent or were too rich for my budget. As a kid I remember seeing a bunch of long bed trucks hauling a boat, a camper or a load of fire wood. Our family truck hauled 5 teenage boys and the family dog in the back from time to time. Whoever said they sold 4 long beds to one short bed hit the nail on the head. I don't recall seeing many short beds back in the day. The short beds do look better than most long beds when dropped. I say most because last week end I saw a long bed that was dropped and it was the nicest dropped truck I ever saw. I wish I had my camera on me... My truck search finally ended when I found a beautiful 100% original one owner 70 Longhorn. She gets worked from time to time... I would also like to mention that even though my truck is a C30 it handles well with a beefy front stabilizer bar and it also rides as smooth as a new truck...
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05-25-2017, 07:11 AM | #20 |
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Re: Why convert to short bed?
People who want a shortbed and can't find one they can buy go out and buy an easier to find longbed and shorten it. That is reason #1. Reason #2 is there are people who only like shortbeds and are otherwise no real truck people. They mostly are car converts. I'm a real truck guy and I like a shortbed for my car. For me it's longbed 8-lugger or shortbed 5 or 6. Lighter truck for lighter load. I want to load my longbed with whatever fits and roll on down the road. That said, I am considering a longbed C/10 since my work s generally lighter these days and a 1/2 cab have taller gears for the hiway...which is where I have to drive to get to most of my work. Most guys here don't buy trucks t use as trucks
It's simple, if you want a longbed you don't shorten it. If you want a shortbed you shorten it.
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Re: Why convert to short bed?
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Shortbeds can pull 16' trailers just fine.
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05-25-2017, 09:08 AM | #22 |
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Re: Why convert to short bed?
Longbed will not fit in my garage....all my vehicles are garaged...end of story.
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05-25-2017, 09:09 AM | #23 |
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Re: Why convert to short bed?
I kept it really simple, but I'll elaborate on answer #2. If you "ONLY" like shortbeds then you aren't really a truck guy. You are a shortbed guy. Because a truck guy likes trucks...period. They can have their favorites, like some more than others, but they just like trucks. The vary nature of trucks is they come in all shapes and forms. In fact, the pickup truck is an afterthought. First came trucks, then came pickups. If you only like Mustangs you aren't a real car guy.
I never said you aren't a truck guy if you like shortbeds and I never said a shortbed is not a real truck. One of the bedsides for my '67 shortbed project is from a truck that spent it's life with a welder in the bed and a set of racks mounted mounted on it. That is as truck as truck gets.
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Re: Why convert to short bed?
Well now, then that's a horse of a different color!
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05-25-2017, 09:12 AM | #25 |
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Re: Why convert to short bed?
Just like every other question like this, its all personal preference. BTW I'm not putting down OP, I ask these kind of questions all the time haha!
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