Wiper motor and dash brace - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

Matt_50 · 08-03-2018, 12:09 PM

I'm wondering if I wasted a lot of time or not this morning. I got my brake assembly bracing all done, took forever to bend the pieces just right, to thick to do with pliers.

It's installed, its strong, I'm happy and then I thought of the old brace that went from firewall to dash and also held the wiper motor. I thought I had to have it get the motor in the right spot. Well I felt like a real dummy when I noticed and then remembered how I took it off. There are two brackets on underside of dash. Spent a lot of extra time cutting and painting and getting it to fit back in there.

Do I need the old brace? What did mount to it under the dash? Is my brace assembly enough of a brace?

MARTINSR · 08-03-2018, 12:25 PM

The "wiper brace" is off the top of the cowl vent brace I believe. I have mine sitting in a box on the floor of the garage right now I will check tonight. I have an extra if you need it.

There is also a small brace that bolts to the motor to hook it to that other brace from the dash to the firewall.

Brian

Matt_50 · 08-03-2018, 12:35 PM

Yea I noticed and remembered those brackets under the dash afterwards...

If you can see what or how it mounts to that brace I'd appreciate it. If I don't need the brace, I think I can do without.

**mr48chev** · 08-03-2018, 02:55 PM

From that batch of photos I took the other day I have this if it helps.

**mr48chev** · 08-03-2018, 02:57 PM

I can pull the hose out of there and get another photo or two if it would help.

Matt_50 · 08-03-2018, 03:10 PM

Ok cool, I have those little pieces coming down from top of dash. So... What about the brace that goes from firewall to steering column upper bolts? Anything bolt to that? I went through the trouble to make it fit back in there on top of brake assembly. Things are a bit bulky in there now, almost wouldn't mind removing it and just keeping brake assembly as my main brace if that's ok.

**joedoh** · 08-03-2018, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt_50

Ok cool, I have those little pieces coming down from top of dash. So... What about the brace that goes from firewall to steering column upper bolts? Anything bolt to that? I went through the trouble to make it fit back in there on top of brake assembly. Things are a bit bulky in there now, almost wouldn't mind removing it and just keeping brake assembly as my main brace if that's ok.

I would use it if you have room. the firewall flexes pretty good with the brake pedal on it, you dont really see it move till you are pumping the brakes to bleed them, then holy moly. when I build a brake bracket I always tie it to that brace you are talking about.

**mr48chev** · 08-04-2018, 12:09 AM

I ran a piece of 3/16 steel plate behind the firewall on mine when I had the firewall mounted master cylinder. Joedoe isn't woofing there without decent support that firewall will really flex. One of the first ones I ever saw with a firewall mounted master cylinder cracked the firewall out around it. Actually that is the reason I saw it. a friend had it ins his shop trying to figure out how to fix it and add enough strength it wouldn't happen again.
I used the largest piece of plate I could stick in there to spread the pressure out over a large area.

Matt_50 · 08-04-2018, 12:36 AM

I guess I'm not over thinking it lol. I used bracing the firewall as one of my excuses for cutting my donor's hood up so I could smooth/cover holes up on firewall. Then when I moved the MC over some I added yet another piece of sheet metal. I now have the brake assembly extended and braced to the dash and now I can keep the original brace.

So... that enough?

08-03-2018, 12:09 PM	#1
Matt_50 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Joshua, Texas. Posts: 1,303	Wiper motor and dash brace I'm wondering if I wasted a lot of time or not this morning. I got my brake assembly bracing all done, took forever to bend the pieces just right, to thick to do with pliers. It's installed, its strong, I'm happy and then I thought of the old brace that went from firewall to dash and also held the wiper motor. I thought I had to have it get the motor in the right spot. Well I felt like a real dummy when I noticed and then remembered how I took it off. There are two brackets on underside of dash. Spent a lot of extra time cutting and painting and getting it to fit back in there. Do I need the old brace? What did mount to it under the dash? Is my brace assembly enough of a brace? Attached Images __________________ 1950 Build

08-03-2018, 12:25 PM	#2
MARTINSR Registered User Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 6,003	Re: Wiper motor and dash brace The "wiper brace" is off the top of the cowl vent brace I believe. I have mine sitting in a box on the floor of the garage right now I will check tonight. I have an extra if you need it. There is also a small brace that bolts to the motor to hook it to that other brace from the dash to the firewall. Brian __________________ 1948 Chevy pickup Chopped, Sectioned, 1953 Corvette 235 powered. Once was even 401 Buick mid engined with the carburetor right between the seats! Bought with paper route money in 1973 when I was 15. "Fan of most anything that moves human beings"

08-03-2018, 12:35 PM	#3
Matt_50 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Joshua, Texas. Posts: 1,303	Re: Wiper motor and dash brace Yea I noticed and remembered those brackets under the dash afterwards... If you can see what or how it mounts to that brace I'd appreciate it. If I don't need the brace, I think I can do without. __________________ 1950 Build

08-03-2018, 02:55 PM	#4
mr48chev Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toppenish, WA Posts: 15,709	Re: Wiper motor and dash brace From that batch of photos I took the other day I have this if it helps. Attached Images __________________ Founding member of the too many projects, too little time and money club. My ongoing truck projects: 48 Chev 3100 that will run a 292 Six. 71 GMC 2500 that is getting a Cad 500 transplant. 77 C 30 dualie, 454, 4 speed with a 10 foot flatbed and hoist. It does the heavy work and hauls the projects around.

08-03-2018, 02:57 PM	#5
mr48chev Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toppenish, WA Posts: 15,709	Re: Wiper motor and dash brace I can pull the hose out of there and get another photo or two if it would help. __________________ Founding member of the too many projects, too little time and money club. My ongoing truck projects: 48 Chev 3100 that will run a 292 Six. 71 GMC 2500 that is getting a Cad 500 transplant. 77 C 30 dualie, 454, 4 speed with a 10 foot flatbed and hoist. It does the heavy work and hauls the projects around.

08-03-2018, 03:10 PM	#6
Matt_50 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Joshua, Texas. Posts: 1,303	Re: Wiper motor and dash brace Ok cool, I have those little pieces coming down from top of dash. So... What about the brace that goes from firewall to steering column upper bolts? Anything bolt to that? I went through the trouble to make it fit back in there on top of brake assembly. Things are a bit bulky in there now, almost wouldn't mind removing it and just keeping brake assembly as my main brace if that's ok. __________________ 1950 Build

08-04-2018, 12:09 AM	#8
mr48chev Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toppenish, WA Posts: 15,709	Re: Wiper motor and dash brace I ran a piece of 3/16 steel plate behind the firewall on mine when I had the firewall mounted master cylinder. Joedoe isn't woofing there without decent support that firewall will really flex. One of the first ones I ever saw with a firewall mounted master cylinder cracked the firewall out around it. Actually that is the reason I saw it. a friend had it ins his shop trying to figure out how to fix it and add enough strength it wouldn't happen again. I used the largest piece of plate I could stick in there to spread the pressure out over a large area. __________________ Founding member of the too many projects, too little time and money club. My ongoing truck projects: 48 Chev 3100 that will run a 292 Six. 71 GMC 2500 that is getting a Cad 500 transplant. 77 C 30 dualie, 454, 4 speed with a 10 foot flatbed and hoist. It does the heavy work and hauls the projects around.

08-04-2018, 12:36 AM	#9
Matt_50 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Joshua, Texas. Posts: 1,303	Re: Wiper motor and dash brace I guess I'm not over thinking it lol. I used bracing the firewall as one of my excuses for cutting my donor's hood up so I could smooth/cover holes up on firewall. Then when I moved the MC over some I added yet another piece of sheet metal. I now have the brake assembly extended and braced to the dash and now I can keep the original brace. So... that enough? Attached Images __________________ 1950 Build



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