64 c10 tax return refurbishment - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

Bob_wuzza · 04-02-2021, 12:06 AM

So I’ve got a 64 c10 with a straight 6 that I had assumed for years was the correct engine.

Keep in mind this is a Canadian truck.

I know they either had a 230 or a 292, engine block casting # confirms it’s not a 292 but either a 250 or a 230. I removed a spark plug and the top of the piston looks flat which should make it a 250. Other than removing the top end and measuring the stroke how can I confirm what I have?

Bought a bunch of well needed parts to get it chooching a bit better. Whatever parts that gets removed gets cleaned up and painted before it goes back on.
I’ve been trying to find what colour the engine is suppose to be and I’ve narrowed it down to the Chevy orange ( which is what it was when I bought it ) and the light blue ( which is the colour the intake manifold was after I cleaned it off ).

So questions are:
How do I find out what engine I have?
Should I splurge on a 292 and build it?
What colour is my engine suppose to be?
Is the intake and exhaust manifold the same colour as the engine?

**cwcarpenter98** · 04-02-2021, 12:12 PM

None of the engines in 60-66 Chevy trucks were orange from the factory, so my guess is that you have a later engine that's been swapped in. Sounds like the PO used the stock intake though which is why it's blue

**jayoldschool** · 04-02-2021, 01:17 PM

Believe Canadian Chev trucks got orange engines. Lots of little differences up here on 60s GM stuff.

Bob_wuzza · 04-02-2021, 04:44 PM

I tried calling a local Chevrolet dealer to see if they knew where I could get more info on the truck, no dice. Is there a VIN decoder somewhere that would tell me what the original truck configuration was?

**Tpo** · 04-02-2021, 04:59 PM

Can you measure stroke by inserting something into spark plugs hole? Like a wooden spoon for a dial indicator?

Bob_wuzza · 04-03-2021, 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tpo

Can you measure stroke by inserting something into spark plugs hole? Like a wooden spoon for a dial indicator?

I’ll try it out, who know the stroke off the top of their head?

If I remember correctly 230 is like 2 1/8” and 250 is 2 1/2”

**cwcarpenter98** · 04-03-2021, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayoldschool

Believe Canadian Chev trucks got orange engines. Lots of little differences up here on 60s GM stuff.

Ooh, I wasn't thinking about that. Thanks for the correction!

Bob_wuzza · 05-05-2021, 02:42 PM

Boy, did I open a can of worms.

got everything off without breaking anything, then I noticed the studs that hold the manifolds together a little bit corroded and figured: what can go wrong? lets replace these.

I broke one stud and I could not get it extracted, buddy broke the other and could not get it extracted, welding nuts did not work, torch caused 2 fractures in the exhaust manifold, machinist helped me out and replaced the studs and planed the manifolds individually ( also blasted and painted ).

manifolds planes are not lining up, drilled out bolt holes to get enough room so they do, got it back together and I have an exhaust leak I can not pinpoint.

**SOON2BLAZE** · 05-06-2021, 03:47 AM

The fuel pump is behind the motor mount on the passenger side of a 292.
On a 250 the fuel pump is in front the passenger side motor mount

Bob_wuzza · 05-06-2021, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SOON2BLAZE

The fuel pump is behind the motor mount on the passenger side of a 292.
On a 250 the fuel pump is in front the passenger side motor mount

Are they the same fuel pump and rod?

**62bagger** · 05-06-2021, 12:33 PM

It looks like you have a 250 CID from the casting number in your photo. See the info on the link below.
http://www.castingnumbers.info/site/.../18245/3850817

Bob_wuzza · 05-06-2021, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 62bagger

It looks like you have a 250 CID from the casting number in your photo. See the info on the link below.
http://www.castingnumbers.info/site/.../18245/3850817

It says 230 or 250

cgrocen · 05-06-2021, 02:02 PM

If you want to find out the original configuration of your vehicle, you can request that info here: https://www.vintagevehicleservices.com/option-info

Vintage Vehicle Services is in Canada. I got a report for my truck. It will tell you the original equipment on the vehicle, where it was sold, etc.

Here are some photos of the report, and an information pack that I received as well.

There was a mistake on my report, as the motor has a 1 bbl carb not a 2 bbl carb as shown.

Click on the image for a full size view.

Regards,

Chris

**62bagger** · 05-06-2021, 02:08 PM

I had a 250 in my truck when I got it and I remember something about the position of the distributer is different on the 250 and 230. I think my 250 had the distributer towards the front of the block and on the 230 it was near the rear of the block. I think that is right but not positive.

04-02-2021, 12:06 AM	#1
Bob_wuzza Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Canuckistan Posts: 21	64 c10 tax return refurbishment So I’ve got a 64 c10 with a straight 6 that I had assumed for years was the correct engine. Keep in mind this is a Canadian truck. I know they either had a 230 or a 292, engine block casting # confirms it’s not a 292 but either a 250 or a 230. I removed a spark plug and the top of the piston looks flat which should make it a 250. Other than removing the top end and measuring the stroke how can I confirm what I have? Bought a bunch of well needed parts to get it chooching a bit better. Whatever parts that gets removed gets cleaned up and painted before it goes back on. I’ve been trying to find what colour the engine is suppose to be and I’ve narrowed it down to the Chevy orange ( which is what it was when I bought it ) and the light blue ( which is the colour the intake manifold was after I cleaned it off ). So questions are: How do I find out what engine I have? Should I splurge on a 292 and build it? What colour is my engine suppose to be? Is the intake and exhaust manifold the same colour as the engine? Attached Images

04-02-2021, 12:12 PM	#2
cwcarpenter98 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Hickory Flat, GA Posts: 4,488	Re: 64 c10 tax return refurbishment None of the engines in 60-66 Chevy trucks were orange from the factory, so my guess is that you have a later engine that's been swapped in. Sounds like the PO used the stock intake though which is why it's blue __________________ Christian Carpenter 1963 C10 - Frankentruck 283, Muncie 3 speed with overdrive Overdrive wiring here 1963-ish truck bed trailer - Half-Wit 1981 C10 - Penny 305, th350 --> Soon to be 350, Saginaw 4 speed 1995 Dodge Dakota Sport "I'll put it simple: if you're going hard enough left, you'll find yourself turning right." - Doc Hudson

04-02-2021, 01:17 PM	#3
jayoldschool Moderator Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: ON, Canada Posts: 2,176	Re: 64 c10 tax return refurbishment Believe Canadian Chev trucks got orange engines. Lots of little differences up here on 60s GM stuff.

04-02-2021, 04:44 PM	#4
Bob_wuzza Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Canuckistan Posts: 21	Re: 64 c10 tax return refurbishment I tried calling a local Chevrolet dealer to see if they knew where I could get more info on the truck, no dice. Is there a VIN decoder somewhere that would tell me what the original truck configuration was?

04-02-2021, 04:59 PM	#5
Tpo Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Eugene, OR Posts: 95	Re: 64 c10 tax return refurbishment Can you measure stroke by inserting something into spark plugs hole? Like a wooden spoon for a dial indicator?

05-05-2021, 02:42 PM	#8
Bob_wuzza Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Canuckistan Posts: 21	Re: 64 c10 tax return refurbishment Boy, did I open a can of worms. got everything off without breaking anything, then I noticed the studs that hold the manifolds together a little bit corroded and figured: what can go wrong? lets replace these. I broke one stud and I could not get it extracted, buddy broke the other and could not get it extracted, welding nuts did not work, torch caused 2 fractures in the exhaust manifold, machinist helped me out and replaced the studs and planed the manifolds individually ( also blasted and painted ). manifolds planes are not lining up, drilled out bolt holes to get enough room so they do, got it back together and I have an exhaust leak I can not pinpoint. Attached Images

05-06-2021, 03:47 AM	#9
SOON2BLAZE Account Suspended Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Southern UT Posts: 906	Re: 64 c10 tax return refurbishment The fuel pump is behind the motor mount on the passenger side of a 292. On a 250 the fuel pump is in front the passenger side motor mount

05-06-2021, 12:33 PM	#11
62bagger Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Sonora California Posts: 285	Re: 64 c10 tax return refurbishment It looks like you have a 250 CID from the casting number in your photo. See the info on the link below. http://www.castingnumbers.info/site/.../18245/3850817

05-06-2021, 02:02 PM	#13
cgrocen Registered User Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Esterhazy, SK Posts: 82	Re: 64 c10 tax return refurbishment If you want to find out the original configuration of your vehicle, you can request that info here: https://www.vintagevehicleservices.com/option-info Vintage Vehicle Services is in Canada. I got a report for my truck. It will tell you the original equipment on the vehicle, where it was sold, etc. Here are some photos of the report, and an information pack that I received as well. There was a mistake on my report, as the motor has a 1 bbl carb not a 2 bbl carb as shown. Click on the image for a full size view. Regards, Chris

05-06-2021, 02:08 PM	#14
62bagger Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Sonora California Posts: 285	Re: 64 c10 tax return refurbishment I had a 250 in my truck when I got it and I remember something about the position of the distributer is different on the 250 and 230. I think my 250 had the distributer towards the front of the block and on the 230 it was near the rear of the block. I think that is right but not positive. Last edited by 62bagger; 05-06-2021 at 02:19 PM.



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