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Old 08-13-2021, 03:16 AM   #1
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The GMC V6?

I was thinking about swapping the 3.86 crank from the 478 V6 into my 305 V6... Then you'd have a 4.25 bore by 3.86 stroke netting you 329 V6.. bump up the compression and shazzam you have the same power as the bigger V6s from a smaller higher compression unit probably saving a bit of front end tonnage too😎

I do love them all 305/351/379/401/432/478 plus the 637 V8, and 702 V12🤩

Always thinking of ways to do it differently
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Old 08-13-2021, 08:46 AM   #2
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Re: The GMC V6?

Can't wait.
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Old 08-13-2021, 09:27 PM   #3
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I was thinking about swapping the 3.86 crank from the 478 V6 into my 305 V6... Then you'd have a 4.25 bore by 3.86 stroke netting you 329 V6.. bump up the compression and shazzam you have the same power as the bigger V6s from a smaller higher compression unit probably saving a bit of front end tonnage too😎

I do love them all 305/351/379/401/432/478 plus the 637 V8, and 702 V12🤩

Always thinking of ways to do it differently
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Not that simple. 401 and up use a gear driven crank, 305 and 351 use a chain. V6 engines are not about high rpm horsepower, there all about low rpm torque. They all have heavy internal parts that like to run slow .
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Old 08-14-2021, 03:22 AM   #4
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Yes I am well aware of the low end torque and that they are slow revers... Swapping cranks wouldn't make it a high revving engine it's probably in fact slow it's revs down..

They also have 4 ring diesel style pistons.

I am sure it's no a bolt in and run deal
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Old 08-14-2021, 01:52 PM   #5
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The best candidate for performance would be from a 351 out of a '66-'68 GMC pickup with a 500cfm Holley and dual exhaust.
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Old 08-14-2021, 02:51 PM   #6
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Don't the 351 have a chain timing? If so then the 379 was a 351 with the 3.86 stroke crank put into it... Just like the 432 is the 401 with the 3.86 crank.. So given that, I would guess the crank gear can be swapped to the crank sprocket??? Maybe one would have to source the 3.86 stroke crank from/for the 379 V6 to make it work out?

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Old 08-14-2021, 06:33 PM   #7
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I always wanted to bore a 305 out to accept something like 502 pistons or some other common off the shelf option, tons of meat in the block from what I've seen and still no where near 478 bore. Maybe have custom rods and custom cam ground,do little port work to heads and intake for little more power bump.
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Don't the 351 have a chain timing? If so then the 379 was a 351 with the 3.86 stroke crank put into it... Just like the 432 is the 401 with the 3.86 crank.. So given that, I would guess the crank gear can be swapped to the crank sprocket??? Maybe one would have to source the 3.86 stroke crank from/for the 379 V6 to make it work out?

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Yes, you are correct about the 379, completely forgot GMC made one of those. Good news is the 351 and 379 both had chains. Your on to something now. It should work if the crank is out of 379. Not sure of how to calculate what the compression ratio would be. Too bad the 379 was a one year wonder, only available in '73, it is a very rare engine, GMC discontinued the V6 gas family that began in 1960 in '74. Just imagine if you could find a great running low mileage 379 out of a '73 GMC farm grain truck!
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Old 08-14-2021, 08:36 PM   #9
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Just trying to think of something new while keeping it in family. I figured the 4.25 bore would be an easy piston set to find and get. So to combine that with nice high torque 3.86 stroke crank should continue the legacy of being a good strong low end slow rpm puller.

Kinda like a diesel that starts nice in cold weather��

Compression bump adds to the gains
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Old 09-28-2022, 08:52 PM   #10
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My 305 had very low compression ratio...that's why you could lug it to 1200rpm. It was fun, but my 70 stock 315hp 402 from CST is night and day. 1) better fuel economy 7.5mpg to 12mpg. 2) Power..up hill no downshifting, more road speed as well. V6 went to a good home for a 67 4x4 resto. Still have 435G Trans 4spd....
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