Back from paint and body...need some advice

[gordyzx9r]

We got our 1970 C10 back from body and paint. Came out nice, but wound up costing double what the original estimate was due to there being a lot more rot than we thought there would be...a lot of metal work, a lot. But, it looks good. I can't remember the paint name, but it's close to a caramel candy apple red...with black interior

Now to put it all back together, I need some advice and help.

It's not an original truck...not even close. And we use it like a truck, it's not meant to be a show truck. And we're keeping it low thrills, not many bells and whistles.

It's a 1970 2WD C10 but it's got an 8' bed from a '72 I think (it has the passenger side cargo compartment in the side of the bed). The 350 that's in it...is from god knows what/where but it runs good and we rebuilt it a few years ago. And it's a 4-speed manual, though with the way it's geared I don't think I've ever used 1st.

We got all new heater/defrost components...from the radiator hoses to the ducts, all of it was replaced. We have heat and defrost again!

Windows were all taken out and we had all new seals put in. But we decided not to put the chrome window trim back on, it looks better without it.

We had all the body side molding holes filled in to smooth out the sides.

Eliminated the antenna hole and filled that in.

Moved the gas tank to the rear frame and filled in the gas tank hole on the cab and the one that was on the bed for the external tank(s).

What I need advice/recommendations with:

Bumpers? I was just gonna get the premium chrome front and back from LMC that look like simple stock bumpers. The bumpers I had on it were trashed.

Grill. Again, planning on going with the chrome grill from LMC with the silver insert.

All new lenses for the lights from LMC.

Is the stuff from LMC good quality? Fitment issues?

We also need to put in a new carpet. There is a company called USA1 that has carpets specifically for cabs with no fuel tank that run to the wall. Does anyone have any other recommendations for that?

How do you differentiate between a low transmission hump and a high hump? It's one of the questions some sites ask when choosing the carpet.

Door panels. I don't like the original ones that have the Western stitch theme to them...is there something basic and simple out there we can use for door panels?

What do the screws look like for the compartment door hinges? The screws that attach the hinges to the door itself and the screws that attach the hinges to the truck...I need those. I hope they're not something crazy to find like the hinges were.

[bnorth]

I like stock bumpers, rear sport bumper looks good.
High hump floor bolts in. Since you have a 4 spd it is likely high hump as they were from the factory though you mention a lot has been changed on yours.
Auto custom carpet (ACC) also does a carpet for no fuel tank. It is usually well priced from Rock Auto

[Steeveedee]

I'll only comment about a grill from LMC, because that's what I bought. Any more parts like that, I will pick up locally, as the thing had dings in it. I didn't bother with a return request, because the truck is 50+ years old, and it'll get dinged again, anyway. It's not a show truck. Still, dropping all that money and having dings in a new part is not a desired outcome.

[Getter-Done]

I would try to find the bumpers at Swap Meets.

Personally, I will not Buy Anything from LMC. (Period)


There is a Swap meet this weekend at the Lebanon TN fairgrounds.

[54blackhornet]

I second the previous comment about bumpers. LMC is ripe with low quality products.

[HO455]

The best part of LMC is the catalog.
I like AAC carpet. Step up for the mass backing version.
The majority of repop bumpers are made of thinner metal than the OE bumpers. Depending on your trucks color you might consider a set of painted bumpers. They can often be found for cheap.
Install all the underdash electrical components before installing the harness.
I'm unsure as to which screws you mean by "Compartment door hinges"?

[LS short box]

I bought most of my 68 parts from Summit. Bumpers front and sport rear. They fit well.
Carpet wise same from Summit made by ACC. I used the high hump carpet kit. Behind the seats I used trunk liner black fabric material. Buy it in bulk at the local fabric shop.
Pic of the high hump.

[adf5565]

I have the rear step bumper on my 72 from LMC. I was satisfied with the quality, good chrome and is fairly heavy duty.

[gordyzx9r]

Originally Posted by HO455

The best part of LMC is the catalog.
I like AAC carpet. Step up for the mass backing version.
The majority of repop bumpers are made of thinner metal than the OE bumpers. Depending on your trucks color you might consider a set of painted bumpers. They can often be found for cheap.
Install all the underdash electrical components before installing the harness.
I'm unsure as to which screws you mean by "Compartment door hinges"?

I have a cargo door on my bed, it's located on the lower passenger side near the cab.

I had to have the door refurbished and when they took it off, they did not keep the mounting hardware and they trashed my hinges thinking they could replace them/fab them easily...the couldn't, lol. I was able to source the hinges, but I don't have any books that show what size/length/head those screws are for it.

[HO455]

Ah the tool box! I'm afraid I can't help with that as they didn't come on Burbans. (As far a I know anyway as I've never seen one)

If no one chimes in try posting a separate thread about tool box mounting screws. I believe they are commonly rusted solid and get drilled out so it shouldn't be a problem to find them.

[71CHEVYSHORTBED402]

Originally Posted by gordyzx9r

We got our 1970 C10 back from body and paint. Came out nice, but wound up costing double what the original estimate was due to there being a lot more rot than we thought there would be...a lot of metal work, a lot. But, it looks good. I can't remember the paint name, but it's close to a caramel candy apple red...with black interior

Now to put it all back together, I need some advice and help.

It's not an original truck...not even close. And we use it like a truck, it's not meant to be a show truck. And we're keeping it low thrills, not many bells and whistles.

It's a 1970 2WD C10 but it's got an 8' bed from a '72 I think (it has the passenger side cargo compartment in the side of the bed). The 350 that's in it...is from god knows what/where but it runs good and we rebuilt it a few years ago. And it's a 4-speed manual, though with the way it's geared I don't think I've ever used 1st.

We got all new heater/defrost components...from the radiator hoses to the ducts, all of it was replaced. We have heat and defrost again!

Windows were all taken out and we had all new seals put in. But we decided not to put the chrome window trim back on, it looks better without it.

We had all the body side molding holes filled in to smooth out the sides.

Eliminated the antenna hole and filled that in.

Moved the gas tank to the rear frame and filled in the gas tank hole on the cab and the one that was on the bed for the external tank(s).

What I need advice/recommendations with:

Bumpers? I was just gonna get the premium chrome front and back from LMC that look like simple stock bumpers. The bumpers I had on it were trashed.

Grill. Again, planning on going with the chrome grill from LMC with the silver insert.

All new lenses for the lights from LMC.

Is the stuff from LMC good quality? Fitment issues?

We also need to put in a new carpet. There is a company called USA1 that has carpets specifically for cabs with no fuel tank that run to the wall. Does anyone have any other recommendations for that?

How do you differentiate between a low transmission hump and a high hump? It's one of the questions some sites ask when choosing the carpet.

Door panels. I don't like the original ones that have the Western stitch theme to them...is there something basic and simple out there we can use for door panels?

What do the screws look like for the compartment door hinges? The screws that attach the hinges to the door itself and the screws that attach the hinges to the truck...I need those. I hope they're not something crazy to find like the hinges were.

I can't speak to it due you have no respect for originality The hump's height depends on your drivetrain, perhaps just the transmission. I can only speak for a high hump, 402/400. Seems if in doubt install a high hump, but don't take my word for it, at all. If you haven't got your answer yet, what's your drivetrain?

OC Auto Carpets is Auto Custom Carpets (ACC) preferred retail source, and great service. I've never read a complaint. I think I paid 650ish for their insulated carpet floor, fuel tank cover and a pair of mats, with shipping.

Can't help with bumpers beyond you really need to know your rear bumper bolt pattern on your frame rails. It's probably 5" or 7.1", IMO. Repo. brackets are probably )(&*^)(* and if so, good idea to flatten where they mount the bumper or stand to ruin your new bumper. They have to fit flush on the bumper, and without any distortions from the bumper to the frame rails. Front brackets should be straight forward, short I know a 71-72's inner brackets take an offset washer each, fit between the bumper and brackets. Not sure about a 70 bumper, the assm. manual knows for sure.

Oh yeah, LMC.................Run. Just kidding, sorta. LMC is cool cuz they ID parts nicely. I've found a part they only carry, and yes, some of their parts are as high of quality as anyone else who carries the parts. But most times, there are better vendors for a number of reasons, including better parts.

[Getter-Done]

Originally Posted by gordyzx9r

I have a cargo door on my bed, it's located on the lower passenger side near the cab.

I had to have the door refurbished and when they took it off, they did not keep the mounting hardware and they trashed my hinges thinking they could replace them/fab them easily...the couldn't, lol. I was able to source the hinges, but I don't have any books that show what size/length/head those screws are for it.

Here is a Picture of the Screw below.

I have a couple of Boxes stashed away.

I will try to get you a Measurement on these screws.

[Getter-Done]

Here a Picture of the Screw.

[Steeveedee]

So, pan- or round-head Phillips. I guess if he could mike the holes, he could get the size.

[Getter-Done]

The screw head diameter is 0.365

The washer is 0.441 diameter and 0.042 " thick.

It is looking like a #8 Machine screw.

I have yet to get one out without the head snapping off.

Maybe someone will Chime in with a Thread pitch measurement.

[Dieselwrencher]

I have to find where I hid my good screws. Most of the hinges I have removed, the screws snap off. I know I have some that didn't brake. I'll dig around and get some pics today.